What makes Greek life "hot" in the south? - Page 13

PhiGam · #**181** 02-25-2008, 10:35 AM

I am literally speechless.
And if you're wondering what real pledgeship means... maybe you should find out what bows and toes means first.

banditone · #**182** 02-25-2008, 10:50 AM

best thread ever?

PhiGam · #**183** 02-25-2008, 10:53 AM

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best thread ever?

Egg salt.

33girl · #**184** 02-25-2008, 11:13 AM

Why do I feel like I'm reading a "paper vs pledging" thread?

Why is that very, very ironic?

SWTXBelle · #**185** 02-25-2008, 11:27 AM

First, what is my award for rendering PhiGam speechless?

I'm not sure if the "real pledgeship" remark is addressed to me - but what do you know of northern chapter's pledgeships? Rumor, hearsay? You've already said you don't mix with northern chapters, so I'm curious as to where you are getting the information which informs your opinion of these northern (perhaps western, too) chapters.
Shouldn't pledgeship be the same for all chapters - I believe HQs certainly strive for a certain uniformity in their programming. Admittedly, my experience with fraternity pledgeship is only being married to the president of a local as became a colony and then a chapter of Sigma Chi - so HQ ran the program.
So - please define your terms. What constitutes a "real pledgeship", and on what do you base your belief that only southern fraternity chapters have it?

Elephant Walk · #**186** 02-25-2008, 11:28 AM

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You would say a man who has gone through all of that is not your brother because of his choice of clothing? A man who wears a hoodie instantly is somehow inferior? Pardon me for thinking that your standards are rather superficial if that is the case.

Clothes do tell alot about a person in certain circumstances, but no not on that basis alone obviously.

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I also want to know about this sweeping generalization that all the northern chapters have no standards and will pledge anyone - what is this based on?

www.greekchat.com...you should check it out sometime. It usually reaffirms my sweeping generalizations.

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Running into a few brothers from northern chapters you don't feel would make it on your campus? Are you so sure their standards aren't different, as opposed to inferior? (I know - it's a rhetorical question)

I've already established they were different. By our standards, inferior.

Fraternity life is so much more than just brotherhood.

It's regional tradition, rites of passage, a status symbol, a method of gaining wealth through connections and so on.

edit: I apologize for being 1 minute late so that you could "render me speechless".

nittanyalum · #**187** 02-25-2008, 11:31 AM

I have male family members that were greek at an expensive, elite Ivy League college in the north and got the crap hazed out of them.

So would they be cool with you guys?

SWTXBelle · #**188** 02-25-2008, 11:32 AM

Oh, silly me - you read some things in an internet chat room that lead you to your generalization about all northern chapters. And here I was thinking you were relying only on rumor and hearsay!

I guess I've got egg on my face!

eta - nittany, does he wear hoodies?

SWTXBelle · #**189** 02-25-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Fraternity life is so much more than just brotherhood.

It's regional tradition, rites of passage, a status symbol, a method of gaining wealth through connections and so on. So, the north doesn't have regional tradition, rites of passage, status symbols, or a method of gaining wealth? I yield to no one in my passionate love for the south, and my appreciation of what makes us different, but I don't see these particular aspects of greek life as being restricted only to the south.

edit: I apologize for being 1 minute late so that you could "render me speechless".

I'm sure you are just intimidated by my hotness.

nittanyalum · #**190** 02-25-2008, 11:41 AM

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eta - nittany, does he wear hoodies?

No, I've never seen either in a hoodie. I don't think they'd even know what one was. I also don't know if they were really worn when they were in school anyway.

Elephant Walk · #**191** 02-25-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I have male family members that were greek at an expensive, elite Ivy League college in the north and got the crap hazed out of them.

So would they be cool with you guys?

What does hazing have anything to do with it?

And I'd like to say that if we would get along, DKE at Yale because they're so steeped in tradition.

nittanyalum · #**192** 02-25-2008, 11:46 AM

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What does hazing have anything to do with it?

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

And if you're wondering what real pledgeship means... maybe you should find out what bows and toes means first.

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.

ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

PhiGam · #**193** 02-25-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.

ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

I'm not saying you're off base... I'm saying that if you knew what bows and toes or elephant walk (lol) meant than you would understand what hes saying indirectly.
Also, the fraternities here are only about 600-900 per semester, its the sororities that are expensive.

Elephant Walk · #**194** 02-25-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I guess my inference of the implication is off-base... but I don't think so.

ETA: and maybe you missed that I used the words "expensive" and "elite" because that seems to fit in the requirements being set forth as well... thought their "connections" and access to wealthy and elite stuff would make them cooler with you guys too...

Hazing down south is military in nature. Not the bullshit that gets on the national news in California or some place like that. I would say that hazing in the south is in the middle-tier...it's not terribly hard, but it's not soft either...there's alot of other things that go with being a pledge besides hazing and that's what puts our pledge programs in the tops.

They do have better connections and more wealth. DKE at Yale does, at least. I don't know about the other fraternities in the Ivy League. The Ivy League seems to be the exception to the Northern stereotype.

edit: By the way jackass, I believe he was saying "you better find out what bowsandtoes (((((the poster))) means", not the hazing term"

DSTCHAOS · #**195** 02-25-2008, 11:56 AM

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Hazing down south is military in nature. Not the bullshit that gets on the national news in California or some place like that. I would say that hazing in the south is in the middle-tier...it's not terribly hard, but it's not soft either...there's alot of other things that go with being a pledge besides hazing and that's what puts our pledge programs in the tops.

Interesting assumptions there.