Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[FSUZeta]

To the IUmoms: I am so sorry that your daughters are disappointed. All we moms want is for our children to be happy. But......if they are able to put that disappointment aside today, they may find happiness in a chapter where they did not expect to. You all advised your daughters to go in with an open mind and heart and give each chapter they will see today a chance. If you are able to speak to them before they sign their bid cards, you might remind them that here on GC we have read several rush stories where the PNM accepted a bid somewhat reluctantly, but did accept it, and over time, they came to love and cherish the sisterhood they joined. It really can happen, but sometimes those PNMs must sort of make it through their first year, and the second year, as they work with their sisters preparing for recruitment, homecoming and other big events on campus, it clicks for them and they are sold: ABC was the right place for me after all.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

To the IUmoms: I am so sorry that your daughters are disappointed. All we moms want is for our children to be happy. But......if they are able to put that disappointment aside today, they may find happiness in a chapter where they did not expect to. You all advised your daughters to go in with an open mind and heart and give each chapter they will see today a chance. If you are able to speak to them before they sign their bid cards, you might remind them that here on GC we have read several rush stories where the PNM accepted a bid somewhat reluctantly, but did accept it, and over time, they came to love and cherish the sisterhood they joined. It really can happen, but sometimes those PNMs must sort of make it through their first year, and the second year, as they work with their sisters preparing for recruitment, homecoming and other big events on campus, it clicks for them and they are sold: ABC was the right place for me after all.

THIS.

[carnation]

What percentage of PNMs usually get bids at IU? And I'm also wondering what % drop out before initiation.

[pinkmama]

I think it's about a 65 percentage get placed. If there is roughly 1500 or 1600 I think about 900 to 1000 get placed this accounts for those who drop out of rush, those who don't make grades and those who go bid less. With the newly added sororities it may be a bit higher now

[IUALUM]

As an IU alum who went through this painful process years ago and did not receive a bid, my heart goes out to all the girls today who are incredibly disappointed. But it does not define you! After my rejection I can still say I had a great IU experience with both girls in and out of houses. I know that may not help you today, but it will get better. Now fast forward to 2014 IU rush and now my daughter is going through it. I have dreaded this day ever since she decided to attend IU. I was very open with my story and tried to prepare her for utter disappointment. As moms know its better to handle our own disappointment than our children's. She kept an open mind and knew it would take mostly "luck" to get a bid. We have had cuts accompanied with lots of tears, but she is a better person from the experience. She still has some options but we know it is not over yet. I would encourage any girl that really wants to be in a house to pursue the new colony option….and do not dismiss any sorority because it doesn't have a house. Any chapter is as good as the girls in it….and each and every chapter has some great members. And don't forget all those great fellow students that are not part of the greek system. For all those girls feeling completely rejected today, cry, eat chocolate, cry some more and then move on. Life at IU is a lot more than Greek Life!

[FSUZeta]

And to the mom whose daughter is considering DPhiE: If her heart leads her there, then she should go through their recruitment. Being a member of a colony is a very special opportunity.

[cinder1965]

Where to begin...here we are again, another year of IU rush and broken hearts. I advise at my chapter at Purdue (NOT a recruitment advisor!). The houses at Purdue do allow live outs and uses the formula like every other campus (I forget what its called) to set the pledge calls quota for all houses. From my point of view, it works just fine. I don't get the obsession with having all members live in the house all years. Granted , my sorority experience was 30 years ago but by the time I was a senior, I was kind of done with communal living. It didn't mean I didn't love my chapter and still wanted to participate, but living in an apt didn't sound too bad but I didn't even have that option. As an advisor, I am keenly aware this has to be controlled because the fact is you have to have a full house to financially make it.

Today's collegians have so many different family situations, opportunities, etc that it seems prudent for sorority systems to be flexible. Plus not using bed quota offers so many more women the opportunity to participate, which I think is a GOOD thing.

IMO, this culture at IU makes no sense to me, it seems very old school and back ward thinking. I don't mean this to be demeaning to anyone that went to IU, I just don't understand why it wouldn't seem more desirable to have a system that expands opportunities.

[Mom64]

How strict are the chapter's GPA requirements? My daughter knows a few PNMs who do not have the minimum GPA requirement set by houses they have been invited back to today. Why invite them back when others with the required GPA have been cut?

[IUHoosiergirl88]

Originally Posted by Mom64

How strict are the chapter's GPA requirements? My daughter knows a few PNMs who do not have the minimum GPA requirement set by houses they have been invited back to today. Why invite them back when others with the required GPA have been cut?

GPA requirements are strict--the PNMs your D knows may have a higher GPA than she thinks. Rarely, rarely, rarely will someone like a strong legacy or total superstar make it through to bid day with a GPA below requirements

[Mom64]

Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88

GPA requirements are strict--the PNMs your D knows may have a higher GPA than she thinks. Rarely, rarely, rarely will someone like a strong legacy or total superstar make it through to bid day with a GPA below requirements

No, she is absolutely sure of at least one of the PNM's GPAs as they completed their bid cards together.

[pinkmama]

They shouldn't be asked back if they don't make the GPA. I know our recruitment advisors were super strict on that even to the point that girls got cut who had grades but if we needed to cut say another 30 girls then the bottom 30 GPA were the ones to get cut. I remember someone's best friend got cut by our advisors and we had no say we didn't even know it until we got our list and she wasn't on it.

[irishpipes]

Was a weather delay really completely out of the realm of consideration? This is INDIANA, the upper Midwest, in January.

And no offense to IU grads and fans, but why is it so much more important for you to cut for grades than every other NPC system? Too many PNMs? Talk to your friends at Alabama.

As for not wanting a system where members can't live in house the entire time, we don't always get what we want. Ask the hundreds of PNMs who don't have a chance to live in EVER because they are denied membership. Every other housed NPC system makes this work. You will adjust.

Generally I am a proponent of self-governance, but IU is out of control.

[cinder1965]

Generally I am a proponent of self-governance, but IU is out of control.[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree more....

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Was a weather delay really completely out of the realm of consideration? This is INDIANA, the upper Midwest, in January.

And no offense to IU grads and fans, but why is it so much more important for you to cut for grades than every other NPC system? Too many PNMs? Talk to your friends at Alabama.

As for not wanting a system where members can't live in house the entire time, we don't always get what we want. Ask the hundreds of PNMs who don't have a chance to live in EVER because they are denied membership. Every other housed NPC system makes this work. You will adjust.

Generally I am a proponent of self-governance, but IU is out of control.

Preach!

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Was a weather delay really completely out of the realm of consideration? This is INDIANA, the upper Midwest, in January.

And no offense to IU grads and fans, but why is it so much more important for you to cut for grades than every other NPC system? Too many PNMs? Talk to your friends at Alabama.

As for not wanting a system where members can't live in house the entire time, we don't always get what we want. Ask the hundreds of PNMs who don't have a chance to live in EVER because they are denied membership. Every other housed NPC system makes this work. You will adjust.

Generally I am a proponent of self-governance, but IU is out of control.

Great post IP! Yet I am going a step further here. As an IU alumna amd a former recruitment supervisor on amother campus, I saw first hand how crazy the IU process can be. I wish it was different, but as I said earlier it is up to the collegiate panhel to vote in any changes.

You have to remember that the women voting are 19-22 year old survivors of these Greek Hunger Games. Since we've been using the analogy and author Suzanne Collins is an IU alumna (not Greek) I am going to roll with it. These women don't IU as being dysfunctional because it's all they know. Just like all the district residents, they didn't know anything differrnt.

Now these Greek Humger Games survivors have advisors. But unless Haymitch stands up and gives better advice to the tributes, we are at a stalemate. If the Haymitches from the various districts don't educate and train their own, these women won't see why cjange might be good. How many of the orgs are going to stand up for change...when will the idea of change catch fire?