Auburn Recruitment 2012

[ramsey]

Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ramsey

Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...

I guess it depends on how seriously you take your national or international policies. For many of us, those rules do mean a chapter "has" to do something.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by ramsey

Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...

Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.

[ramsey]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.

Right. But you don't think the sisters have been taught how to casually ask "have you enjoyed your other parties today?" to get an idea if we are their only pref party or not? Not to mention that many PNMs do actually spill that information, without much prompting.

Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by ramsey

Right. But you don't think the sisters have been taught how to casually ask "have you enjoyed your other parties today?" to get an idea if we are their only pref party or not? Not to mention that many PNMs do actually spill that information, without much prompting.

Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.

If I were a PNM, I might be tempted to game the system to maximize my pref options. I might not list my legacies on my resume/registration, but I would make sure that my legacy forms were turned in to the chapters. That way individual chapters would know that I am a legacy, but no other chapters would know that I am a legacy. (If I'm in an in-house legacy and then people might know my sister, but this could work if my legacy is through my mom or grandma.)

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by ramsey

Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.

Hahaha, you're right. I will add this to my list of reasons that I think unlimited QA's are not all they are cracked up to be.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.

One thing about the OOOOOLD way that I liked. Back in the day we got everyone's lists.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

^We talked about this in another thread, but "no rec form for the legacy" is my fave. As if in the middle of prepping for recruitment and doing tons of things, the actives are supposed to remember that Suzie is a legacy. I can MAYBE see that working out if the parent is highly involved, but the parent who usually doesn't send the form is the alumna who hasn't been involved, yet somehow expects the red carpet to be rolled out for her kid.

Maybe these mothers didn't participate personally in a giant computer managed recruitment? I was a PNM in 1982, if I hadn't helped with recruitment from time to time over the last 20 years, including the last three, I would have no clue as a "Legacy Mom." Those legacy forms are ABSOLUTELY necessary. Still something tells me the moms that don't turn in a legacy form aren't reading Greek Chat either.

[AUmom2012]

Titchou-----I have a question about that completely complicated program they use for bids. Does it mean also that most chapters fill their quota? Or are some left with open bids to distribute later Just wondering.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by AUmom2012

Titchou-----I have a question about that completely complicated program they use for bids. Does it mean also that most chapters fill their quota? Or are some left with open bids to distribute later Just wondering.

Titchou must not have seen your question.
YES, and that is one of the best blessings of using RFM - more chapters reach quota and sometimes beyond, and more women are pledged.
There is no such thing as "open bids to distribute later."
If a chapter has openings - and this is really based on average chapter size rather than a recruitment quota - the chapter may use Continuous Open Bidding (COB, or by its old term, open rush) to fill those slots. This often happens for some of the smaller groups, and will sometimes happen now that so many students graduate in December.
But you cannot count on any chapters - large or small - having spaces available.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Titchou must not have seen your question.
YES, and that is one of the best blessings of using RFM - more chapters reach quota and sometimes beyond, and more women are pledged.
There is no such thing as "open bids to distribute later."
If a chapter has openings - and this is really based on average chapter size rather than a recruitment quota - the chapter may use Continuous Open Bidding (COB, or by its old term, open rush) to fill those slots. This often happens for some of the smaller groups, and will sometimes happen now that so many students graduate in December.
But you cannot count on any chapters - large or small - having spaces available.

Even if a chapter is at or above total, they can COB up to quota after formal recruitment if they failed to make quota. It's not common at all or something to be counted on but is in the realm of possibilities.

[DubaiSis]

AUmom2012, RFM helps all chapters achieve quota over time but in any given rush it doesn't make a difference. It helps over time because girls seem to be more open to their options once they realize their choices are limited. The early cuts do really suck, but it's better for the girls in the long run when they get cut early by the chapters who weren't going to pledge them anyway. But the computer program doesn't provide the chapters with girls who simply aren't there. The rushees have to have been at their parties and have to have put them high enough on their list that the chapters get the girls they want.

The process is very complicated, but is less fraught with problems than back when there was a very human element involved. And requiring chapters to cut to a certain level really is better for the rushees in the long run.

[lawgal]

69 new Thetas is what I heard

[irishpipes]

AXO 60
ADII 60
AGD 61
AOII 62
AZD 69
XO 58
DDD 58
DG 70
DZ 61
GPB 64
KAT 69
KD 60
KKG 72
PM 59
PBP 60
SK 60
ZTA 60

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[TNVol]

I'm the proud mom of an Auburn Delta Gamma! Soooo glad it's over. Added bonus, one of my rec girls pledged Theta!