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08-12-2012, 11:40 PM
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Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...
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08-12-2012, 11:43 PM
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Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...
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I guess it depends on how seriously you take your national or international policies. For many of us, those rules do mean a chapter "has" to do something.
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08-13-2012, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ramsey
Interesting talk about all these legacies "having" to be first on pref lists. What if all the other houses have dropped her because she's a legacy and our house is the only house that she's preffing? Seems to me that it would make much more sense to put that legacy (or any other woman that's only preffing our house) at the bottom of our bid list, since we know she's going to come to us anyway for maximizing her options. This gives us the opportunity to get the rest of the women we want as well, possibly quota plus...
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Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.
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08-13-2012, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?
Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.
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Right. But you don't think the sisters have been taught how to casually ask "have you enjoyed your other parties today?" to get an idea if we are their only pref party or not? Not to mention that many PNMs do actually spill that information, without much prompting.
Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.
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08-13-2012, 08:58 AM
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Right. But you don't think the sisters have been taught how to casually ask "have you enjoyed your other parties today?" to get an idea if we are their only pref party or not? Not to mention that many PNMs do actually spill that information, without much prompting.
Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.
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If I were a PNM, I might be tempted to game the system to maximize my pref options. I might not list my legacies on my resume/registration, but I would make sure that my legacy forms were turned in to the chapters. That way individual chapters would know that I am a legacy, but no other chapters would know that I am a legacy. (If I'm in an in-house legacy and then people might know my sister, but this could work if my legacy is through my mom or grandma.)
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08-13-2012, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KDCat
If I were a PNM, I might be tempted to game the system to maximize my pref options. I might not list my legacies on my resume/registration, but I would make sure that my legacy forms were turned in to the chapters. That way individual chapters would know that I am a legacy, but no other chapters would know that I am a legacy. (If I'm in an in-house legacy and then people might know my sister, but this could work if my legacy is through my mom or grandma.)
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If your legacy house is not on campus then I would definitely mention it as GLO legacies can be a +1 (or whatever) in a chapter's PNM computer ranking system. To not mention it might shave potential points off a PNM? Yeah it could.
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08-13-2012, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MaryPoppins
If your legacy house is not on campus then I would definitely mention it as GLO legacies can be a +1 (or whatever) in a chapter's PNM computer ranking system. To not mention it might shave potential points off a PNM? Yeah it could.
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Mentioning a legacy that is not on campus is similar to mentioning a dad or brother who is Greek. It says "my family is familiar with Greek life and supports my decision to rush". This may not be important at a rush where recs are mandatory and all that, but it is certainly a positive in recruitments where women sign up same day and lack of family support can be a huge problem when it comes to retaining NM's.
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08-13-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ramsey
Just saying.... If I were on [insert your orgs membership selection committee name here], I'd be putting all the "only preffed my chapter" PNMs at the bottom of my bid list, so we can try to fill quota with other gals we want first, and pick up all the 1 pref party girls (that we're aware of) with quota plus when they maximize their options.
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Hahaha, you're right. I will add this to my list of reasons that I think unlimited QA's are not all they are cracked up to be.
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08-13-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Hahaha, you're right. I will add this to my list of reasons that I think unlimited QA's are not all they are cracked up to be.
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I think they are great. Because it puts the members where they want to be, the chapters want those members, otherwise they wouldnt have been invited to pref, and this really would only apply to the 1 pref party girls. If I know they ONLY preffed my party, they only have 1 option. We want them... but we want other girls who may list us first as well. We don't want otherPNMs who list us first to be turned given to another chapter because of quota because our first bid list had names on it that were going to end up with us ANYWAY. So yes, it's strategy, and don't tell me your chapters don't do it. Everyone plays this game.
anyone heard what Auburn quota was? 60ish?
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08-13-2012, 12:29 PM
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It appears Tri Delta has two sets of twins, one set from Tennessee and one from Alabama.
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08-13-2012, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?
Chapters have no idea who a PNM is preffing or how many chapters she is preffing unless the PNM actually tells them.
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One thing about the OOOOOLD way that I liked. Back in the day we got everyone's lists.
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