12-year-old tased by police officer

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by article

A 12-year-old girl was Tasered by a police officer inside a Victoria's Secret store in St. Louis last week.
The officer says that the girl,Dejamon Baker, was physically interfering and refusing to back away as he attempted to arrest her mother, Charlene Bratton, according to KSDK. He had approached Bratton because she had several outstanding warrants for unresolved traffic tickets, the station reported.
During the arrest attempt, Baker, along with another unidentified female, "charged the officer," according to the St. Louis County Crime Report published on Patch. He ultimately arrested Bratton, Baker, and the third female, though only the 12-year-old was subjected to the electrical shock. It's unknown what charges they face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1729527.html

[Kevin]

I really don't see anything wrong with this.

The girl was 15, not 12.

Also, traffic citations? With her record, she really needs to take care of her tickets.

Charlene Elizabeth Bratton plead guilty to drug trafficking in 2008 and again in 2009. She plead guilty to possession of marijuana in 2009. This lady is a felon and if she's saying that her daughter was just standing there innocently and was tazed, I'm not buying it.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The girl was 15, not 12.

Dejamon Baker is 12 years old. Dejamon Baker was tasered by the police officer.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Dejamon Baker is 12 years old. Dejamon Baker was tasered by the police officer.

Whatever. Looking at the mother's record, I'm not buying the mother's story, nor the daughters. If you interfere with a police officer and only get the tazer and no criminal charges, that's a good day.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Whatever.

No, not whatever. Dejamon Baker is 12 years old.

I can understand a CHILD crying and being frantic if a parent is being (what the child may perceive as) randomly arrested at the mall. The 12-year-old CHILD was the only person tasered.

Controlling for her mother's traffic warrants, perhaps you would view tasering a 12 year old child differently if she looked like this 12 year old girl:

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, not whatever. Dejamon Baker is 12 years old.

Controlling for her mother's traffic warrants, perhaps you would view tasering a 12 year old child differently if she looked like this 12 year old girl:

Nope and what a classless move to even suggest as much.

I don't care how old the child was. If she was not obeying lawful orders and the officer followed appropriate procedures for escalation of force, that's all I care about. Ultimately, what the officer did prevented all involved from escalating the violence any further and much to my surprise, only the mother went to jail that day. It sounds like the officer used a lot of discretion in not charging the other individuals who were interfering.

From the story, apparently another adult was also engaged in the resistance. This felon-mother wasn't going away quietly.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I really don't see anything wrong with this.

You're KKKevin, so I would be surprised if you said the opposite. Have a seat dude. You're an arrogant, dumbass idiot.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

You're KKKevin, so I would be surprised if you said the opposite. Have a seat dude. You're an arrogant, dumbass idiot.

Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.

Fuck the police officer. Bottom line is dude tased a 12 year old, which was unnecessary. You're one of those mofos who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Fuck the police officer. Bottom line is dude tased a 12 year old, which was unnecessary. You're one of those mofos who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself.

You weren't there. I give a shit about the police officer who was arresting a multiple felon who was being interfered with by another adult and a young lady who got tasered and likely deserved it. If the St. Louis PD stands behind him, so do I. If new facts emerge, that could change. Until that time, I'll take the word of a law enforcement officer over that of a convicted drug trafficker.

Who I don't give a shit about is the arrested individual unless you can demonstrate her rights were somehow violated and the child and adult who interfered with an officer. Hope they learned their lesson.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.

Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Racist, and arrogant too.

I do not call individuals racist. But, he's definitely unrelentingly slow.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.

Sure, you've evolved since then and moved on. It doesn't matter that this was a CHILD or actually, no, you pretty much haven't backed off of that one. Perhaps you can educate us on how your world view has evolved since then? It is now okay to taser a CHILD or it never is? You were wanting guidelines and casting racial aspersions and refusing to commit to anything and now I'm the slow one?

Jesus Christ.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I do not call individuals racist. But, he's definitely unrelentingly slow.

You're right, and I feel you, but dude has made several remarks on here and other threads that I've read that makes me believe that he is.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

He had approached Bratton because she had several outstanding warrants for unresolved traffic tickets, the station reported.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1729527.html

Very poor job of reporting by Huff Post, not by you, Dr. Phil. The warrants were for drug TRAFFICKING, not traffic tickets.

Looks to me like this child might have seen her mother arrested on a couple of other occasions...

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Very poor job of reporting by Huff Post, not by you, Dr. Phil. The warrants were for drug TRAFFICKING, not traffic tickets.

Looks to me like this child might have seen her mother arrested on a couple of other occasions...

Are you getting that from the comments? I checked the Missouri courts page and there aren't any currently filed cases pending for drug charges. In fact, the last thing she was convicted of was marijuana possession in '09 and before that, trafficking in the 2nd degree.

Of course I'm not sure at what point those charges would show up online. 'Round here, we can access everything from the probable cause affidavit to the original charges online before the arrest warrant even comes down. Mizzou might be different.

At any rate, I sort of doubt it was for trafficking considering she was apparently able to afford to post bail as she would have been unavailable for that interview otherwise.