Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[LatinaAlumna]

Don't you love how PikA and Kapital feel the need to post their resumes on a message board? They must feel VERY pressed to prove their worth. I can just imagine how insecure they are in real life!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

Don't you love how PikA and Kapital feel the need to post their resumes on a message board? They must feel VERY pressed to prove their worth. I can just imagine how insecure they are in real life!

How many pages of this thread have been dedicated to interrogating me as to my qualifications, whether I'm hiring anyone, etc.?

Perhaps they felt a preemptive strike was merited?

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Perhaps they felt a preemptive strike was merited?

People asked you for your qualifications. No one cared to ask those two. They just put their info out there because they are trying desperately to prove that they are "successful."

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

Don't you love how PikA and Kapital feel the need to post their resumes on a message board? They must feel VERY pressed to prove their worth. I can just imagine how insecure they are in real life!

Insecure? Not at all. I hardly posted what you'd call a resume either. I was just explaining to your hideously pretentious ass that one doesn't need a "top tier" education to make it in life. By the way, how's that Stanford MBA in basket weaving treating ya these days?

No really, since you got all butt hurt from my iniatial post I know you have an unmarketable degree LA. What is it in? Womens studies, maybe Chicano studies, art history, Klingon? Tell us!!

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Insecure? Not at all. I hardly posted what you'd call a resume either. I was just explaining to your hideously pretentious ass that one doesn't need a "top tier" education to make it in life. By the way, how's that Stanford MBA in basket weaving treating ya these days?

No really, since you got all butt hurt from my iniatial post I know you have an unmarketable degree LA. What is it in? Womens studies, maybe Chicano studies, art history, Klingon? Tell us!!

It would make your ego feel much, much better if I said that I had a degree in one of those fields, wouldn't it? I am completely comfortable having you conjure up stories about my life.

And, sorry, but you still haven't convinced me that you are successful. Try harder.

[Kevin]

If you say so.

[Kevin]

So you say you're choosing to stay home to take care of your parents rather than casting a wider net? That's the point it is your choice. You are responsible. I'm not judging you or saying you're a bad person, but you have to admit some complicity in your situation. It's not your fault that Michigan is a bad place to be at the moment, but it is your fault that you choose to stay there. In fact, your decision aside from that is pretty laudable. You put your family ahead of your career. Good for you, but you did that.

And moving doesn't cost all that much. Put your chit in a UHaul and go. If you have a job waiting on the other end of the trip, there's where the money comes from.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So you say you're choosing to stay home to take care of your parents rather than casting a wider net? That's the point it is your choice. You are responsible. I'm not judging you or saying you're a bad person, but you have to admit some complicity in your situation. It's not your fault that Michigan is a bad place to be at the moment, but it is your fault that you choose to stay there. In fact, your decision aside from that is pretty laudable. You put your family ahead of your career. Good for you, but you did that.

And moving doesn't cost all that much. Put your chit in a UHaul and go. If you have a job waiting on the other end of the trip, there's where the money comes from.

UHauls aren't cheap. And leaving your parents house to pay rent or whatever in another state isn't cheap. Where does that money come from?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So you say you're choosing to stay home to take care of your parents rather than casting a wider net? That's the point it is your choice. You are responsible. I'm not judging you or saying you're a bad person, but you have to admit some complicity in your situation. It's not your fault that Michigan is a bad place to be at the moment, but it is your fault that you choose to stay there. In fact, your decision aside from that is pretty laudable. You put your family ahead of your career. Good for you, but you did that.

And moving doesn't cost all that much. Put your chit in a UHaul and go. If you have a job waiting on the other end of the trip, there's where the money comes from.

Sooo...UHaul accepts future income in order to rent out trucks?

If you have no money because you have no job, you can't just up and move.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Sooo...UHaul accepts future income in order to rent out trucks?

If you have no money because you have no job, you can't just up and move.

Mow some lawns, babysit some kids, borrow some money. Use your resources.

If you have no resources, you are the only person you can blame for that.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Mow some lawns, babysit some kids, borrow some money. Use your resources.

If you have no resources, you are the only person you can blame for that.

So the fact that most people have cut those expenditures out of their budgets is the job-seekers' fault as well?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

So the fact that most people have cut those expenditures out of their budgets is the job-seekers' fault as well?

Most people? Nah. There'll always be jobs for folks providing daycare, lawn mowing, house cleaning, etc.

If you need money, there's a way to get it.

I'm a believer in the ability of properly motivated people to find money. A good criminal lawyer can quote an unemployed person a $15,000 attorney's fee for a serious felony and somehow they can get the money.

A cross-country UHaul costs a few hundred bucks. If you can't put together that kind of money, you clearly aren't trying hard enough.

[dreamseeker]

^^ LOL.

[AGDee]

I do believe that Pika knows deep down that he was lucky to "escape" before 1) he had too many things tying him here and 2) things got as bad as they are now.

My ex was finally approved today for No Worker Left Behind funds... $10,000 to go back to school, even though he has an MBA in Finance. They originally told him only unskilled workers could qualify. He's thinking he's going to get his MSIS and go into IT auditing as a good fit with his accounting background. UNLESS he gets the job he is interviewing for on Monday, which I think sounds like a really good fit for him. Keeping fingers crossed. He has looked at truck driver school, which would cost around $3500 for a 3 week course, but they turned him down because he has bouts of vertigo. I must admit, the idea of him driving a semi and having a vertigo attack was a pretty scary thought. He talked to admissions counselors at several schools about an MSIS and about a teaching certificate. Given that every school district in the state is now laying off because of a drastic decrease in funding, he decided against the teaching certificate, which is good, because he is a grump and I think he'd be really grouchy toward the kids. He has taught at the University of Phoenix before and has applied for teaching jobs at all the community colleges in the area. Something along those lines may come up for Spring term. Because of the No Worker Left Behind funds, everybody and his uncle are going back to school and the community colleges had to close their admissions for the first time ever. Teaching at that level is a real possibility for him. None of these things happen immediately though. Although he's an accountant, he's not a tax accountant and he was laid off too close to tax season to do taxes this year, because the courses were already started when he was laid off. I just think it's presumptive to say that people aren't doing anything or being creative or thinking outside the box. He was seriously going to go to truck driving school. He's also applying for jobs out of state, in states where he has relatives he could live with, so he can still pay his mortgage here til he can sell his house. Which also means he would leave his children. Hardly an ideal situation, but he IS willing to do it if he has to.

[Kevin]

Ah yes. The trump card. Giving up.

Pathetic. You're right. Can't win, don't try.