Minority members of IFC and Panhellenic

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah, no one would've expected a white man to come out on top.

Not taking anything away from this bright (and fine) young man and how hard he worked, of course.



I think I'm insulted right now but I still wuv u.

*****

Minority members in the IFC and NPC...ready...set...go!!!!

:unsure:

i'm jealous.

oh yea, my frat is very diverse. we have 3 filipinos.

Originally Posted by starang21

:unsure:

i'm jealous.

oh yea, my frat is very diverse. we have 3 filipinos.

Do you have TFC there?

Wowowee filmed here on Saturday as part of their US Tour. 20,000 Filipinos showed up.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

hijack/

I was waiting for someone to post that. LOL.

That fine specimen of a man is a great news story.

But other than being the first white valedictorian, he's the typical Morehouse man. I didn't like the fact that an article said that he "raised the bar." He didn't because he is the typical super-accomplished Morehouse man and isn't the only valedictorian with a 4.0. And of course he isn't the only white man at Morehouse. His being the first white valedictorian is indicative of inclusion on the part of Morehouse and his peers but not indicative of any triumph of whites amidst systemic adversity. Race, gender, and other minority groups' firsts are celebrated because of triumph amidst structural adversity.

/end hijack

God bless you.

[alum]

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by alum

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

I don't think they consciously said it because he's white. Maybe subconsciously or because it sounded like a nice thing to say. But what it implies and what is embedded in it is what concerns me.

The bar wasn't raised by this valedictorian. And he probably learned more from this experience, which he admits along with admitting his Ivy League options, than they learned from having him.

You will rarely find a PWI or other predominantly white institution to praise blacks by saying "the bar was raised." Usually, blacks will be celebrated for excelling and working harder to achieve, what their white counterparts have already achieved, despite the status quo and defying whites' expectations/stereotypes.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You will rarely find a PWI or other predominantly white institution to praise blacks by saying "the bar was raised." Usually, blacks will be celebrated for excelling and working harder to achieve, what their white counterparts have already achieved, despite the status quo and defying whites' expectations/stereotypes.

I was just thinking/saying this.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by alum

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

I think the reporter added her own inflection on that. The rest of America does not cherish or appreciate the grandeur of Morehouse like some of us do. This young man was accepted to Cornell? however he choose Morehouse instead and used all the resources that the House had to offer and took advantage of what they had to offer, too. I don't knock him for that. But The 'House is doing damage control after incidences occurred on campus. That is why this kinna thing is being publicized. Should dude be highlighted, sure! I think it is awesome to see any young person obtaining their dream. However, we in the business all know why Morehouse is doing this.

[Senusret I]

On a related note, my school didn't need to have a Valedictorian as you'd all be working for us some day anyway.

[DSTCHAOS]

Thanks for reminding me that I spelled "amidst" wrong TWICE in that post. Yikes.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Thanks for reminding me that I spelled "amidst" wrong TWICE in that post. Yikes.

I didn't even notice it, but don't you hate when that happens? LOL! I fixed it.

[Psi U MC Vito]

You have a point about that, my chapter experiences are shaped by the makeup. and ass for my second point that you quoted lets try something else.

Alot of NIC fraternities were founded at insitutes of higher education at a time when those of non white descent did not truly have the option of doing so themselves.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

You have a point about that, my chapter experiences are shaped by the makeup.

Good then you can understand my response to your second point:

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Alot of NIC fraternities were founded at insitutes of higher education at a time when those of non white descent did not truly have the option of doing so themselves.

There are very few coincidences in life.

What this means:
Your chapter experience, which (whether you admit it or not) factors into your overall sorority experience, is shaped by the chapter makeup. So there is no denying that the majority of NPC and IFCers' experiences are shaped in the same manner. The members do not call it a "cultural" experience or emphasis, but that's only because "whiteness" was considered an invisible race and ethnicity for so long because it was mainstream and majority. However, patterns of socialization and networking are important to pay attention to even if the organizations' philanthropies don't target the "white community."

[Psi U MC Vito]

Hmm. You have a very good point. I'm assuming with sorority you are generalizing with yourself. But what about when you have a chapter that is part of a "white" organization, but the chapter itself is not of that makeup. I mean I understand why the generalizations were started, but why do they still hold strong today? Also what exactly do you mean by IFC? do you mean NIC?

[DSTCHAOS]

I think enough has been said that you can connect the dots from here.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Also what exactly do you mean by IFC? do you mean NIC?

Yeah, they're the same thing except the term NIC (North-American Interfraternaty Conference) is the international council of historically white fraternities and the term IFC (Interfraternity Council) refers to local councils of NIC fraternities at a particular campus. But the terms are pretty interchangeable.