A GC Hypothetical

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I do appreciate the heads up especially since she started her thread about moving to New York. I guess that's a lie also. I didn't give her any personal information about myself, but I might have if AXJules and valkyrie hadn't blown the whistle. So thank you and take care.

the thing is, we don't know if her thread about moving to New York was a lie or not. I tend to think it was the truth, especially since wouldn't she be right around graduation age, starting a new job, etc.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by KSigkid
true...i actually never even went to college, i'm the guy who walks around by Fenway and passes out the flyers on how to be saved by the Lord.

i go into internet cafes and pose as a college student by day though...something to pass the time.

Then, sometimes i log in as my alter ego and quote myself, saying I agree - it's not b/c collin and i are pretty similar in terms of likes and dislikes, or the fact that we were essentially common-law married for 6 semesters in college, but probably b/c we're the same person.

You never see us in one place, do you?

[33girl]

Originally posted by AXiD670
Well, she never posted on the AZD forum, so how would we know she claimed to be an AZD? Supposedly she only claimed this to people privately. We can't monitor every conversation that takes place over instant message by every user on this board.

For. Damn. Real.

Honestly, that remark was uncalled for.

[33girl]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
So far I've heard of two GC people lampooned on LJ, one of whom from GC I am close with. To this day I still don't know who's responsible, but everybody's so damn quick to blame the H&A. Riiiiight. I suppose we're responsible for the fake Antonin Scalia one too?

Antonin Scalia is a public figure. That's a little bit different.

The reason everyone's blaming the H & A is because GP had a post about the fake honeychile LJ in her live journal. If she didn't want the H & A to get blamed, she should have made it friends only.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by 33girl
Antonin Scalia is a public figure. That's a little bit different.

The reason everyone's blaming the H & A is because GP had a post about the fake honeychile LJ in her live journal. If she didn't want the H & A to get blamed, she should have made it friends only.

Lets see my name is still on their livejournal interests section. That's normal and fine right?

The sad thing is that I know AXJules didn't approve of the way these freaks harassed and stalked me for months. But because she didn't post initially, since there was talk of how mullet had "penetrated" their little group, and all these posts of this imaginary online group defending themselves...well because of all that, AXJules case, which was valid, was intertwined with their stuff.

-Rudey

[James]

This has to be the most politely worded, Fuck You Very Much, I have read in a long time.

I got a genuine chuckle, and respect your honesty and bluntness.

I think this half of what people wanted, a mere admission that you (the H & A) are a clique, that the clique likes to be mean as a group, and that not only are you quite aware of this, you glory in it.

Fair enough.

Of course the other half of what they wanted was for you gals to chill out and stop it

Originally posted by sugar and spice
As I said above, and have said on many other threads -- I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for when it comes to my conduct on GC, and I don't feel like it's my business to apologize for my friends' behavior. Apparently many others agree with me on the first count because I have received dozens of PMs telling me that I have represented Tri Delta wonderfully and not a single one telling me the opposite.

While "it's just the internet" is not an excuse for hurting people's feelings, I have to say that I just don't understand -- and maybe never will -- WHY someone would hold back from posting their opinion just because they know people are going to disagree. If what the H&A does is considered "bullying," I've been bullied multiple times on GC and never complained. (Politics forum much?) I want to ask you, and anyone who disagrees with you, what is it that you fear will happen if you post something that disagrees with what I/we say? That you'll get "flamed"? Why is that so scary? IMO, it's natural that people are going to disagree on this board, and that is not something that should frighten anyone into not posting. If it does, there's a problem -- not with the environment of GC, but with why that person feels that way. Like I said above, people are blaming the H&A for why they're leaving GC, and that's ridiculous. They might not like the environment that's partially created by the H&A on GC, but they are the ones that are either choosing to stick around or leave. Everybody who posts on GC has a hand in creating the environment that the board consists of -- and believe it or not, not everybody loved the environment of the board BEFORE the H&A came along either. There are far more people who have left for more banal reasons than "GeekyPenguin made me cry!" than have ever left because of the H&A. We all make the decision to stay on GC or to leave it on a daily basis -- anybody who's posted or lurked here does.

GC is going to change -- it can't stay the same forever. You notice how every single person who comes to the board eventually says, "It's not the same as when I joined"? Whether they joined in 2000 or 2004, they view the time they joined as the Golden Age of GC. And like I've said, I was not thrilled with the board last summer. So what did I do? Instead of complaining, I made friends with GeekyPenguin and damasa, I started bonding with the people on the board that I still liked, and ultimately . . . the H&A was born. Clearly we have become a force that has, as y'all have put it, "changed the atmosphere of the board." You know what? We like it better this way. Most of us prefer it to the way the board was before! And so, if you guys are so pissed off at the way the board has changed, I challenge you to change it back. If it's possible for people to "run other people off the board," why don't you try to run US off the board? It's clear you'd like it better that way, so why not do it? Or, make like the H&A and IGNORE the posts you don't like and post more of the stuff you do. Wouldn't that, in your opinion, be a change for the better? And since the non-H&A outnumber the H&A on this board a million to one, wouldn't it be pretty damn easy to do so?

Because I'm going to be one hundred percent honest here: I don't care that we "ran Kitso off GC" because you know what? I like it better now that he's gone (ditto for most of the others we've "run off GC"). I don't care that the H&A are the only ones responding to certain threads because, hey, we're having fun -- and chances are I don't really care if you are or not. I don't care if you are put off by the fact that five of my friends responded negatively to your post and you felt "bullied," because that's your deal, not mine. Yeah, this might be selfish -- and no, I don't care about that, either. Sorry.

PS: To everyone who thinks this thread should die, every time you respond it just bumps it back up to the top and probably incites at least one new response. That whole "ignoring" thing works wonders!

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by James
This has to be the most politely worded, Fuck You Very Much, I have read in a long time.

I got a genuine chuckle, and respect your honesty and bluntness.

I think this half of what people wanted, a mere admission that you (the H & A) are a clique, that the clique likes to be mean as a group, and that not only are you quite aware of this, you glory in it.

Fair enough.

Of course the other half of what they wanted was for you gals to chill out and stop it

Well, I do what I can.

Although I think you are misinterpreting the post. I did not say that the H&A likes to be mean (although I think there may be one or two members that get more of a kick out of it than I do). I don't think there is a single one of us who sits down at our computer in the morning and says, "Hmmm, who am I going to be mean to on GC today?" I simply said that we don't shy away from it (which is pretty much a felony on this board) and that sometimes we enjoy the results.

I'm just not sure what people expect from their complaints? Does somebody honestly think that if they start enough "We hate the H&A" threads on GC (bullying, what?) we'll suddenly say, "Wow, we really ARE mean! We must stop, repent our sinning ways, and apologize to everyone for making fun of their boyfriends/makeup application/dogs! We're horrible people! People forgive us!"?

In fact, these posts about how mean we are probably have the opposite of the desired effect -- I'm like, "Well, I don't think I've ever been particularly mean on GC, but since everybody assumes I am anyway, why not start calling people ugly when I feel like it?"

Just some food for thought . . .

[Imperial1]

Damn, H&A is once again under attack by those agents who are apart of the matrix. Damn yall, get over yourselves. It ain't that serious. That is unless you actually meet some of the people you post to.

Imperial1

[amycat412]

Originally posted by sugar and spice


In fact, these posts about how mean we are probably have the opposite of the desired effect -- I'm like, "Well, I don't think I've ever been particularly mean on GC, but since everybody assumes I am anyway, why not start calling people ugly when I feel like it?"

Just some food for thought . . .

Exactly. Its not like any of the H&A have "inside every fat person is a skinny one screaming to get out" in our sigs. THAT is mean.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by amycat412
Exactly. Its not like any of the H&A have "inside every fat person is a skinny one screaming to get out" in our sigs. THAT is mean.

uh, you're talking about self-proclaimed ENJOYMENT out of being mean to people vs. a signature that's there all the time.

little different.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
uh, you're talking about self-proclaimed ENJOYMENT out of being mean to people vs. a signature that's there all the time.

little different.

though she's right, James, not very panhellenic. I'm taking your rush shirt back.

[amycat412]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
uh, you're talking about self-proclaimed ENJOYMENT out of being mean to people vs. a signature that's there all the time.

little different.

Perception of enjoyment. As has been stated here many many times by members of the H&A, most of us do NOT enjoy being mean to people.

I can think of more than a few members who are regularly far more mean than any of the H&A.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by amycat412
Perception of enjoyment. As has been stated here many many times by members of the H&A, most of us do NOT enjoy being mean to people.

I can think of more than a few members who are regularly far more mean than any of the H&A.

I'm having a really hard time thinking of anyone who likes being deliberately mean to people. This thread has certainly gotten...um...interesting.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

*shrug* perception of mean, then. I would classify bullying, ganging up on people, personal attacks, etc. as "mean."



(but before Sandy posts: no, it does not affect my life, and yes, I realize it's entirely on the internet. )

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
uh, you're talking about self-proclaimed ENJOYMENT out of being mean to people vs. a signature that's there all the time.

little different.

As I said before -- you're misinterpreting my post.

I don't get off on being mean to people. I can't speak for the rest of the H&A, but given that I don't know anyone who enjoys being mean to people, I can imagine they are similar. The thing is, I also don't get off on blowing sunshine up people's butts when I don't like them. That's the default behavior for women on GC (though not the men -- see my earlier post about double standard), and I think that the fact that most of the H&A have more interesting things to aspire to than the GC sorority girl ideals of "nice" and "sweet" is a little off-putting.

For anybody who continues to complain about how I get off on being mean, I have another challenge for you (since the first one obviously went over your heads): go back through my posts and list the situations where you think I've been "mean." Send me a PM with a list of all these instances. Offhand, I can think of ONE instance that was genuinely mean-spirited. I'm willing to admit that there may be a few others that have slipped my mind -- but for two years on GC and as many posts as I have, I can't say that that's a terrible record. First person to prove me wrong gets the satisfaction of knowing that I am, in fact, a cold-hearted bitch.

Go.