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09-14-2004, 06:51 PM
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Wouldn't some of it be a numbers game as well? Last year, nearly 400 girls started recruitment, and less than 250 actually received a bid. I find it hard to believe that in every instance of the 150 remaining, the girl was an insipid twit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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In a word, no. The college panhellenic sets quota, and I have never heard of an instance where a chapter participating in FR has voluntarily taken fewer NM's.
I would be willing to bet that a good percentage of those 150 either dropped out or didn't maximize their options.
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09-15-2004, 03:34 PM
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Things not to say if you don't want to be drastically cut...
Of course, every chapter has its own rules and things, but these are general things a rushee could say to be cut from a large chapter at a large Southern school:
"My mom/sister/aunt/cousin/grandma was a [insert any sorority but the one you are visiting]." There is no reason to tell a woman from any sorority that you are a legacy elsewhere unless you're already planning to suicide that house.
"My mom made me go through rush." This makes us think you are not interested in Greek life at all, least of all in our house.
"I hate rush... I'm so tired/bored." We're tired, too! We're still having fun!
"I have lots of friends who are in other sororities." Many houses might view this as your indication that you're looking at those houses only.
"I'm planning to transfer/graduate early." Houses, especially ones at very Greek schools, have to keep numbers... they're not usually going to pledge someone who'll only be in the chapter for a couple of years. I graduated in 3 years, though, so I guess there's always an exception to the rule!
"I think I might use the pledge period as a trial period and make my decision by initiation." The chapter wants girls who want to be there, not girls who are unsure on bid day!
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09-15-2004, 04:10 PM
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Here's my theory on why some get cut heavy:
Alot of times, chapters can only invite a certain # of girls back in later rounds. If you have a very large # of girls you really like and they like you alot- they get asked back. I find that it's often the "mediocre" girls who get cut heavy. Simply b/c the chapter can't read them, and they need to make room for the girls they know are interested in coming back. Does that mean these girls are bad? Nope. It's just that a chapter would rather ask back girls who seem to like the house and would be likely to list them first. NOT girls who are just like "whatever".
I hope this makes sense.
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11-22-2004, 05:33 PM
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Rush being over, I thought we would revisit this thread.
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11-22-2004, 06:52 PM
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Ah, James, but for us defferred crazies, the fun has only just begun!
May I just say this, because if I don't, I seriously think I'm going to go nuts. IF I EVER FIND OUT THAT A GIRL WAS CUT FROM MY SORORITY BECAUSE OF HER WEIGHT/APPEARANCE, I WILL DEACTIVATE AND WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTIRE CAMPUS KNOWS!!!!!
If that ever happens, I will seriously denounce my house because those are not the type of sisters I want. We should be about EMPOWERING women, being SUPPORTIVE, POSITIVE models of womanhood, not just skinny statues for people to look at. There is a reason that SERVICE is a huge tenant of sorority life, it's because you must SERVE, i.e. WORK. SERVE your fellow woman. Cutting a woman because of her weight is the farthest thing for sisterhood and for that sake, womanhood. As "women" we should be able to see the good in EVERY person.
And yeah, I'm plus sized, and NO I don't fucking care to ever be a size 2. And I have not one god damn problem with being in the "Fat Sorority" or the "Ugly Sorority" because I've got SISTERS WHO LOVE EACH OTHER.
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11-22-2004, 07:04 PM
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PhoenixAzul, I think I love you.
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12-12-2004, 11:21 PM
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Easy. i didn't get a bid because I am too much of a loser.
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12-12-2004, 11:25 PM
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Easy. i didn't get a bid because I am too much of a loser.
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"What a man thinketh in his heart, so will he be."
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12-12-2004, 11:27 PM
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I rushed twice, in spring and fall. got cut from every house. Got cut from a COB the spring after I first rushed. Wasn't allowed to colonize in a new house. Something is obviously wrong with me.
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12-12-2004, 11:41 PM
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What's that supposed to mean?
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12-13-2004, 12:57 AM
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I rushed twice, in spring and fall. got cut from every house. Got cut from a COB the spring after I first rushed. Wasn't allowed to colonize in a new house. Something is obviously wrong with me.
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Something you may want to consider, instead of saying you are a loser, is that you may not fit into greek life at the campus you are on... I know that had I decided to go to any of the other schools I got into I would probably not have joined greek life. I really am not sure I would have fit in as easily as I did at the campus I was on... Sororities are very different from campus to campus, and greek life in general differs from campus to campus... You may not be happy with the way things are currently working out, but I am a believer that things happen for a reason. You may not have gotten into one of the groups now, but maybe it will let you become involved in something else or some other group... Keeping an open mind and a positive attitude can make all the difference...
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12-13-2004, 07:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nongreekloser
I rushed twice, in spring and fall. got cut from every house. Got cut from a COB the spring after I first rushed. Wasn't allowed to colonize in a new house. Something is obviously wrong with me. [/QUOTE
There are many reasons why things don't work out. I had a rush experience where I never pledged anything, and at my college, they didn't tell you about COB ( or Informal as it was called back then,). Despite that( and the awful feeling I had for weeks), I went on to be VERY active in other organizations on my campus including the student newspaper, drama, a student faith group, several honor societies, and was eventually tapped into the top leadership honor societies on my campus!! I was also privileged to be asked by the college president to serve on one of the campus major councils as a senior. I sometimes think that if I had been Greek at the time, I would never have had those opportunities.
Please, please, please, consider looking at other activities on your campus. It may take you time to find your niche.
I just PM'd you, if you would like to talk more.
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12-13-2004, 10:15 AM
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Ok, I did get a bid and I got it on my first try. For those who do not know my story...I dropped out after 8 months for many reasons. However, as I started the next semester I totally regretted it. Trojangirl, I kind of went your route. I got super involved in campus and did some super cool things. Like being a part of one organization that got to decide on which famous people could come on campus to perform or guest speak. Of course, after I dropped out I still remained in my service fraternity and dedicated tons of time to it (we were rechartering). Even after all of that, those experiences fell waaaaaay short of the sorority experience. Nothing can substitute it at all. If I had the chance I would've transferred (since I wanted to transfer in the first place!) to give it a second try. HOWEVER, if you keep on getting cut time after time, especially at a non-competitive school, I think it is time to look within yourselves to see what the hell is wrong (either with you, or with the sororities - which is unlikely).
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12-13-2004, 10:47 AM
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I rushed twice, in spring and fall. got cut from every house. Got cut from a COB the spring after I first rushed. Wasn't allowed to colonize in a new house. Something is obviously wrong with me.
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Perhaps it is your depressive personality?
It took me rushing THREE times to get my bid (very long story I shall not go into here). The point is, I didn't give up. I found my place and I have contributed with my heart and soul over my 25 years of membership.
Adopt a new attitude AND it will show.
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12-13-2004, 11:34 AM
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Greek Life isn't for everyone.
That doesn't make someone less of a person for not being offered a bid. If you've gone through recruitment multiple times at your university and have not been offered a bid through informal or formal recruitment, then get involved with another activity. Find your niche, and be happy. Who knows? From there Greek life may become part of your life! But if the conventional means aren't bearing fruit after multiple tries, put it on hold for a while and move onto something else! You deserve to find a group where you are a good fit and where you are happy!
Sororities vary from chapter to chapter and campus to campus. For whatever reason you haven't gotten the bid you wanted, accept at some point you're a better fit in another organization and join one of the 100s of clubs and societies at your school. There's no sense in repeatedly attempting to join any kind of organization where you don't fit.
Good luck! And if I'm to get flamed for advising people to make themselves happy in lieu of beating a dead horse, then flame away!
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