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Old 08-20-2002, 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by shadokat
In Philadelphia, a major urban area, a vodka and cranberry does not cost $8, unless you're at the airport or something. And that includes upscale swank places. >>

at all of the hotel bars type places I've been to in the L.A. area, they have, at the swankier restaurants too. And from the little time I spent in San Francisco, that seems right.


Since when can't new members make their own decisions? Just because you're a new member doesn't mean that you lose your right to think for yourself...but that's a whole nother thread stacy. >>

Not in the world I came from, as far as pledging goes. Pledges don't get to make those decisions.

I think that goes back to the whole old school vs. new school of greek life, though. I can't for the life of me imagine when I was pledging to just decide to switch hotels because I felt like it, seperating myself from my pledge class and from the sisters.
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Old 08-20-2002, 01:39 PM
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Angry

I have never wanted to smack someone as much as I did after watching last night's episode. Those awful (and I'm being so nice here) girls have no f***ing clue what sisterhood is. They need to be shown the door-and NOW.

No way would I have left a formal 1) in the middle of speeches, awards, and presentations or 2) to go to a strip club.

And what's up with everyone being so bored with formal?? The first one I went to I was so excited!! I wore my tiara and was bouncing off the walls! I had a blast!

Oh wah wah, the hotel isn't the Ritz, wah wah...spoiled brats. Now, I like nice things as much as the next person, but as someone has already said it wasn't that bad, and I have stayed in worse at fraternity formals I've been too. Whatever.

Ok-but I also do have some nice things to say-the formal was absolutely gorgeous!! I loved the decor. And the sisters all singing "We Are Family"-I have never wanted to be back at a formal with all my sisters as much as I did then. It was really a nice moment.
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Old 08-20-2002, 01:49 PM
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I was with Mara and Jordan...that hotel room they had was gross. Did you see that shit on the wall? I don't think it's a big deal to change hotels if they had the cash!

As for other people leaving and going other places, I'd have to say that the formal was SOOOOO long. Who has a formal until 2 am!! You go, eat dinner, dance, drink and such till 11 or 12 and then go do your thing.
Okay, I realize this is a very young local organization, but this stuff should not fly. Aren't we all forgetting something?!? Two words: Risk Management!!! They can't just take off and do their own thing (whether it's a pledge or an active member) because if something had happened to their drunk arses, the chapter could be held responsible.
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Old 08-20-2002, 01:53 PM
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Just wanted to state for the record, despite her lack of camera time (big shock there) DeeDee's dress looked GREAT!


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Old 08-20-2002, 02:02 PM
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Leslie, I was just going to say the same thing about the hotel...I mean they are in a strange city and just taking off to heaven knows where. It's not like they are in Clarion (pop. 6000) and decided they don't like the Super 8, and go to the Days Inn (which is a parking lot away).

Plus from what I gathered, I think that the hotel they were staying in was charged to the sorority as a whole - so yeah, if they want to be prisses, they can go elsewhere, but they also need to pay for the rooms they thought they were too "good" to use - or Sigma will end up eating the $$$.

When formals were still wet, no one ever went anywhere else afterwards (except to their rooms, nudge nudge wink wink), but that's a different story. The thing is, they HAD a cash bar there - they had no reason to leave. Everyone knows the Westin isn't cheap - if they couldn't afford the "incidentals" and that was more important to them than being with their sisters, they should have just not bothered to attend.
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Old 08-20-2002, 02:13 PM
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Actually, the chapter is not responsible if something happens to them because the event is held at a third party vendor. The Westin would be held responsible if anything happened within the actual formal. As for outside, that would be the responsibility of the establishment they were attending.

As for the rooms, well, if Sigma is paying for everyone's room out of their budget, that's just silliness. Most chapters who do overnight formals have their own sisters pay for their rooms on their own.

I'm not saying that what they did was right in leaving the formal to go somewhere else and get loaded. I guess I am just used to the days when the whole formal thing was open bar....ahhh, those were the days, eh 33?


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Okay, I realize this is a very young local organization, but this stuff should not fly. Aren't we all forgetting something?!? Two words: Risk Management!!! They can't just take off and do their own thing (whether it's a pledge or an active member) because if something had happened to their drunk arses, the chapter could be held responsible.
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Old 08-20-2002, 02:34 PM
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for all you Jordan fans...

I didn't realize Jordan lived so close to my hometown... anyway... this was in my paper yesterday.

I missed the last ten minutes or so of the episode so i am going by what you all are saying. damn... i don't have cable at my new apartment... anyone know when this show is ending?

PS: It's kinda long... sorry.



Quite a rush for Livermore woman on MTV's `Sorority Life'
By Susan Young - STAFF WRITER



This is the story of a popular high school girl from Livermore who graduated in 1999 and became a student at the University of California, Davis.

Jordan - no last name by request - managed to avoid the whole sorority scene until her junior year, when she felt compelled to rush the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi sorority.

It was just a coincidence that at the exact same time, MTV was rushing the house.

Able to act independently because it is not a national organization, the 4-year-old Jewish sorority had no higher authority to answer to and agreed to accept an undisclosed amount of money for allowing the producers of ``Sorority Life'' to tape their rush process last spring.

The show follows six pledges, including Jordan, and six sorority sisters. Since it premiered on June 24, viewers have been eagerly tuning in to ``Sorority Life,'' which airs at 10:30 tonight and every Monday on MTV. Jordan has become a focal point of the show, with her outspoken ways. Even when she's not voicing her opinion, the eye-catching young woman posts her every thought on her expressive face.

In the first episode, the sorority sisters appeared a bit perturbed by the fact that many of the pledges seem to be more along the lines of tall Nordic blondes eager for screen time than serious Sigma sorority material. Much was made of the fact that non-Jewish people rushed the sorority.

In fact, the Sigma sisters issued a statement on the MTV experience, in which they said they think of themselves as a cultural rather than a religious sorority. However, ``Many people, including our own sisters, are uneasy about the overwhelming number of non-Jews who are pledging,'' wrote Sigma sister Mara, who rushed with Jordan.


Here is Jordan's story.


How did you hear about the sorority?


It's not that well known on campus, so everyone knew about it from the MTV crew coming to film there. But I probably would have been interested in it anyway because it's a small sorority and I thought it would be a friendly one.


But according to what is happening in the show thus far, it doesn't seem like a very friendly environment for you. Is it hard to watch?


I think it's very hard to watch. I watched a (recent) episode last night and a few things were taken out of context and at the time it didn't seem like that, or feel like that. But overall, I'm surprised at how accurate it does portray things.

It's really painful to watch most of the time. But then again, I'm learning so much. When it first aired, it was really cool. ... I can't believe all I went through and then to see it all play out again is very hard. I had no idea the things people were saying behind my back.

Like the things Amanda was saying. We were friends before all this and I couldn't believe it. I don't speak to Amanda any more. And all the other girls, well, it's just hard to watch them.


There was controversy that a lot of people rushing weren't Jewish. Are you Jewish?


It was just Mara and me (who are Jewish). Well, she's definitely Jewish and I consider myself to be Jewish, although I'm not really religious. My background is that my grandparents were Jewish and that was always there. Religion never played a big role in my family. I guess I consider myself Jewish, just a non-practicing Jew.


Before MTV rolled into town, Sigma didn't have a pledge house. MTV provide a pretty nice home for the pledges, although it was only rented for the time in which the series was taping. What do you think about that, and the overall manipulation of MTV?


Well, I understand why they needed to have us all in one house, because it made it easier for them to tape us and the sorority couldn't afford that. And they gave us some cars so we could get around a little bit better. But I objected to the rules, like no drinking in the house and no boys in the house after 11 p.m.; that seemed to be instituted by MTV just so we would go out drinking at the bars and hanging out with boys outside of the house.

I think it would have been much safer for us to be drinking in the house than drinking in a bar. A lot of times, the producers would be at the bar, buying us drinks, but not on camera. That didn't seem right.


Are you recognized now because of your appearance on ``Sorority Life''?


I get recognized everywhere I go. People are honking at me in cars so much that I think we are going to get in an accident. I go to Stoneridge mall (in Pleasanton) and kids want my autograph. At baseball games, I've signed arms and legs and it's really cool. People are really into the show.

I've been touched by things people say to me like ``You come across as a strong person'' and girls will ask me about how I do my hair and make-up. It's cool.


Of course, you know about MTV's signature reality show ``Real World,'' but did you ever imagine you would be one of those people?


I remember having a conversation with Amanda before we joined. We ran into some people from ``Real World'' when we were in Las Vegas and they were telling us stuff they had to go through and I thought I could never do that. I'm a very private person and to put myself on camera didn't seem like something I ever wanted to do.

It took a bit of convincing, but my friends told me this would be an experience and I thought, ``Well, why not? Maybe I'll learn something from this or someone else can learn something from me.'' It was a great experience and I would do it all again.


So, have you decided to change your career path because of this experience?


``I'm a political science major and I'm thinking law school. But I feel like I can do anything now. This has been a really empowering experience. It's a natural thing to think you can do (acting) too after this. I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm not going to just sit back after this. I'm going to use it every way I can, I'm just not sure how right now.

Writing a book about the experience would be amazing. I'm still coming back to school in the fall and I'm going to graduate, but I'm not sure what's going to happen after that. I can't talk about it right now, but there will be a lot of questions you'll want to ask after the last episode airs (next month).''
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Old 08-20-2002, 03:02 PM
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ok, so we are assuming that the end is coming soon?
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Old 08-20-2002, 03:05 PM
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Re: for all you Jordan fans...

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Jordan - no last name by request - managed to avoid the whole sorority scene until her junior year, when she felt compelled to rush the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi sorority.

It was just a coincidence that at the exact same time, MTV was rushing the house.
Sure, coincidence.
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Old 08-20-2002, 03:25 PM
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They gave them CARS??? JEEZE!!

Must be nice.


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Old 08-20-2002, 05:09 PM
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"I think it would have been much safer for us to be drinking in the house than drinking in a bar. A lot of times, the producers would be at the bar, buying us drinks, but not on camera. That didn't seem right"

interesting that the producers would buy them drinks too.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:31 PM
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One question: why are most of these girls even there? Most of them seem so unexcited about everything the sorority entails that I can't see why they even bother going through with it. Aside from the TV thing, of course.

The formal was gorgeous.

I didn't think it was that bad for Candace and Amanda to wear sunglasses, but their behavior definitely left something to be desired.

I'm not even going to comment on Mara and Jordan.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:37 PM
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Re: for all you Jordan fans...

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Like the things Amanda was saying. We were friends before all this and I couldn't believe it. I don't speak to Amanda any more. And all the other girls, well, it's just hard to watch them.

This leads me to believe one or the other was not initiated...
My guess is Jordan... since she is not in the Summer formal pics.

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Old 08-20-2002, 08:25 PM
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"I think it would have been much safer for us to be drinking in the house than drinking in a bar. A lot of times, the producers would be at the bar, buying us drinks, but not on camera. That didn't seem right"

interesting that the producers would buy them drinks too.
That's what i was thinking...
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Old 08-20-2002, 11:14 PM
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Does anyone know when the last episode is? As much fun as I have watching every Monday night, I am anxious to see who actually sticks it out and who doesn't, although, I've seen the pictures on the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi website, and noticed some faces missing.
One thing I think about everytime I watch is how are all the sisters feeling after hearing each other's deepest thoughts. I mean, you just can't go into the little confessional MTV sets up for its casts, spill your guts about how you hate the activities of your sorority, you don't want so and so to be a sister, drinking in the pledge house, etc. and then expect no one to see it. I'm sure all the sisters have seen the Real World or Road Rules. Every little dirty thought you say is shown to the world. I hope MTV does a Sigma reunion like they do with the Real World. It would be interesting to see what happened after the show aired.
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