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08-13-2014, 06:06 PM
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an error: meant to say the alumnae chapters for specific NPC groups.
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08-13-2014, 06:42 PM
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One of my rec girls had five invites today, including to her legacy chapter! Since she's no longer returning to ADPi that's who I'm rooting for now.
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08-13-2014, 09:14 PM
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Oh my, not my daughter! (yet)
Lovely girls who just graduated from my children's high school. And, very excited to be part of Bama's Greek community.
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08-13-2014, 09:47 PM
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Oh my, not my daughter! (yet)
Lovely girls who just graduated from my children's high school. And, very excited to be part of Bama's Greek community.
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Sorry -- I see now -- I misread and thought the PNM with the full dance card was your daughter.
So good luck to the NYC PNMs!
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08-13-2014, 09:46 PM
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Not trying to be catty, but I've heard from the aunt of the PNM I was hoping woould fall flat on her ungrateful face....the aunt was asking all the "what if" questions about number of invites so far and would that translate to getting a full schedule at pref. Sounds like it's not going well for the gal...my heart isn't breaking....she'll get a bid because of her family but I hope she has to take second choice....
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08-13-2014, 10:39 PM
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Sounds like it's not going well for the gal...my heart isn't breaking....she'll get a bid because of her family but I hope she has to take second choice....
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If it isn't too nosy a question, did you consider a no-rec? Or did the ingratitude only come out after the rec was sent? Just wondering because when a nice person is this provoked, there's usually a good story behind it.
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08-14-2014, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Low D Flat
If it isn't too nosy a question, did you consider a no-rec? Or did the ingratitude only come out after the rec was sent? Just wondering because when a nice person is this provoked, there's usually a good story behind it.
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This is not something that rises to the level of a "no" rec. For me, those are only confirmed serious behaviour issues (one I did the girl was arrested at school and hauled off in the police car). However, I do know how to write a non flattering rec, an average rec, a great rec, etc. Being a spoiled ingrate does not deserve a "no" - because they may call and ask me why and I have to have a good reason. (our chapter advisers can ask an alum why the "no"" rec so I am careful to only do one when it can be backed up).
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08-13-2014, 11:42 PM
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phialum believed that the PNM did not have a rec for one particular chapter because despite her best efforts she was unable to secure one. My point was that she could not possibly be 100% certain of that fact. I was unaware that I had a rec to a chapter I preferenced, until after rush was finished.
That's all, no big deal. It was just a sharing of information, since not everyone realizes that if a rec is needed for a desired pnm a chapter will do what's necessary to obtain a rec. Networking, especially in this era, is lightning fast.
No way to reasonably connect the dots to infer that this convo indicates that PNMs shouldn't do everything possible to obtain recs. I never said anything like that and neither did anyone else who followed up on my posts.
Sweeping generalizations aren't useful.
Sheesh.
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08-14-2014, 02:48 PM
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^^^^True, and honestly, at that point, it is so important for the PNM to be making her own decisions and choices uninfluenced by outsiders and their opinions. Each chapter on every campus is different, and we all know moms, cousins, Aunts, friends, etc. who want to give their input which further clouds the poor PNM's already overwhelmed mind! It is best, at this point, for the PNM to make their own decision. I would think it also leads to more retention overall by sororities if the PNM is choosing and not feeling torn by trying to please others.
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08-14-2014, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamamom16
^^^^True, and honestly, at that point, it is so important for the PNM to be making her own decisions and choices uninfluenced by outsiders and their opinions. Each chapter on every campus is different, and we all know moms, cousins, Aunts, friends, etc. who want to give their input which further clouds the poor PNM's already overwhelmed mind! It is best, at this point, for the PNM to make their own decision. I would think it also leads to more retention overall by sororities if the PNM is choosing and not feeling torn by trying to please others.
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Very true and I truly wish PNMs would keep this in mind for themselves and the PNMs they're going through recruitment with. One PNM had 3 choices for Pref Round and she was beyond ecstatic with her choices. Susy Sunshine comes in and begins to tell her how awful, bottom tier, take everybody, etc the 3 choices are and leaves the previously happy PNM wondering what the heck just happened. Tent talk at its absolute worst.
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08-14-2014, 04:10 PM
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The Rho Chi (counselor) gives back the phone after she has ranked and turned in the card (or hit "send" on the computer).
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08-14-2014, 02:52 PM
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I totally get why they do it. It probably works very well to deter outside influence as well as unwise tweets. But I would have a huge problem with it if I were a PNM. I'm capable of following rules like "Don't tweet your prefs!" without having my hands tied.
Does a PNM get her phone back when SHE is done ranking, or does she have to wait until the 2250th Unsure Uma makes up her mind?
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08-14-2014, 03:05 PM
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I totally get why they do it. It probably works very well to deter outside influence as well as unwise tweets. But I would have a huge problem with it if I were a PNM. I'm capable of following rules like "Don't tweet your prefs!" without having my hands tied.
Does a PNM get her phone back when SHE is done ranking, or does she have to wait until the 2250th Unsure Uma makes up her mind?
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It's not just the PNMs, it's the "concerned" friends and relatives who often don't know when to stop calling/texting. I'm sure for some girls it's a very welcome respite.
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08-14-2014, 02:56 PM
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I think once they pref, because I do not remember waiting all night to hear from my daughter, and we all know these things can drag on!
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08-14-2014, 03:08 PM
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When Debbie went through recruitment at OSU 2 years ago they took the phones in the am and gave them back at night after they made their choices for that day. The following year PNMs had their phones with them all day. I think it bothered me more than it did her and it was probably for the best that I wasn't pestering her with questions throughout the day.
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