Former Penn State Coach Arrested

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Kevin

17, while illegal in many states ain't pedo territory.

Of course, impregnating your underage client is pretty unethical.

I think she was 16 when he got her pregnant. Also, can't you just take out the "underage" from your statement? i.e., Impregnating your client is pretty unethical.

Being almost 50 and impregnating a teenage girl is just gross, client or no.

[nittanygirl]

If you are one of those people who think that one person defines thousands, please watch this video, and remember what we do. Remember who we are, not who one person is. We are...A BIG TEN UNIVERSITY. We are... 1 IN 10 COLLEGE GRADUATES. We are... CEOs of MAJOR COMPANIES. We are... 40,000+ STUDENTS. We are...THON. We are... A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP VOLLEYBALL TEAM. We are... ONE COMMUNITY.

This university is our home. It is where we grew from children into adults. It is where we learn the skills today to become the leaders of tomorrow. We are thousands honoring the victims of this so called scandal, and we are reaching out to help all victims of abuse. We are not one man, or even a group of men, nor do we stand behind their actions, but we stand behind our University. We are THOUSANDS strong.

We are...PENN STATE.

[SWTXBelle]

You had me until "so-called" scandal.

Any way you cut it, it is a scandal. No, it should not define your university. Yes, Penn State is so much more than this one event. But you do yourself no favour by appearing to discount the reality of the situation by calling the scandal "so-called".

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by nittanygirl

If you are one of those people who think that one person defines thousands, please watch this video, and remember what we do. Remember who we are, not who one person is. We are...A BIG TEN UNIVERSITY. We are... 1 IN 10 COLLEGE GRADUATES. We are... CEOs of MAJOR COMPANIES. We are... 40,000+ STUDENTS. We are...THON. We are... A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP VOLLEYBALL TEAM. We are... ONE COMMUNITY.

I get the sentiment. Of course Penn State is more than this and has lots to be proud of. I doubt anyone here thinks otherwise.

That said, SWTXBelle is right: This is not a "so-called scandal." It is a full-blown scandal. A huge scandal. You claim to honor the victims here, but how can you honor them when you diminish the significance of what happened to them by calling it a "so-called scandal"?

And really, I just have to say this -- I find it significant that the first positive thing you list is that Penn State is "A BIG TEN UNIVERSITY." I really don't think I'm alone in believing that part of the problem here is the way big-time college sports has all too often become the tail wagging the dog, so this just hits a nerve with me. I love college sports as much as the next guy, but there has been a complete loss of perspective on way too many campuses.

[SWTXBelle]

TEAM MC

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And really, I just have to say this -- I find it significant that the first positive thing you list is that Penn State is "A BIG TEN UNIVERSITY." I really don't think I'm alone in believing that part of the problem here is the way big-time college sports has all too often become the tail wagging the dog, so this just hits a nerve with me. I love college sports as much as the next guy, but there has been a complete loss of perspective on way too many campuses.

2 of the things have to do with sports, and I agree that that's part of the problem our culture has in regards to college. I would have started with something like THON, not Big 10.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

2 of the things have to do with sports, and I agree that that's part of the problem our culture has in regards to college. I would have started with something like THON, not Big 10.

Yep, or maybe education.

[nittanygirl]

I guess I mis-worded that.

I understand what you all are saying about the words I chose: "so-called"
I'm trying to think of how I meant to say it..... it has to do more with the effect it is having on the University as an institution than the actual injustices themselves...
I'll think on it and rephrase.

Yes it is a scandal, I understand that and am very angered that nothing was done about this in the first place when SO MANY people in that department knew about it.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by nittanygirl

I guess I mis-worded that.

I understand what you all are saying about the words I chose: "so-called"
I'm trying to think of how I meant to say it..... it has to do more with the effect it is having on the University as an institution than the actual injustices themselves...
I'll think on it and rephrase.

Yes it is a scandal, I understand that and am very angered that nothing was done about this in the first place when SO MANY people in that department knew about it.

I understood you to mean that the scandal is a scandal in and of itself, but that the university as a whole should not be scandalized by the actions (or lack thereof) of a small group of people.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nat...aping-u,26724/

[knight_shadow]

^^ Good grief.

I wish folks (mainly the media) would focus more on the man and not the school. PSU doesn't deserve to be tarnished like this.

[knight_shadow]

OK, I see what you mean.

[thetalady]

Unbelievable that Sandusky's attorney would make what I assume was a flippant remark, with this kind of accidental outcome.

Things just go from horrible to staggering...

800-REALITY

[knight_shadow]

They are really reaching with this one.

[33girl]

It's a very common thing to say "dial 1-800-WHATEVERISPERTINENTTOTHESITUATION." If people actually think that the lawyer KNEW this was a gay sex line, they're nuts.