ITT We Discuss Theology

[Psi U MC Vito]

It's funny I think of Tridentine Mass as High Mass lol. Interesting enough I just came from a Roman Mass and it was done mostly in English. However the Kyrie was in the traditional Greek and both the Sanctus (Holy, Holy, Holy God...) and the Agnus Dei (Lamb of God) were in Latin. And I think that the liturgical language should be either Greek or the vernacular. I understand that Latin has great meaning to the Latin Rite, but I see no reason why Roman Catholics in say the USA should be celebrating Mass based on Latin. Greek at least is the language of scripture. (yes I know that the Tanakh?, correct if wrong aephi, is written in Hebrew and Aramaic, but the Septuagint which was used by the Early Church and even Jews of the time was in Greek) Ideally honestly I would love to see the RC church go the way of the Anglican Communion and Eastern Orthodox, having many provinces (Anglican term) which acknowledge one person as Primus. But I doubt that will happen at all, much less in my time.

[Drolefille]

^^ Pretty common to see the Greek and Latin during Lent in particular.

And you'd have better luck converting to Eastern Orthodox or Anglican than expecting the RCC to stop recognizing Rome.

[Psi U MC Vito]

I am an Anglican lol. And I never said they had to stop recognizing Rome. Just saying that the Latin Rite should be more like the Eastern Catholics.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I am an Anglican lol. And I never said they had to stop recognizing Rome. Just saying that the Latin Rite should be more like the Eastern Catholics.

Considering the lack of recognition for Rome is a HUGE part of why the two are schismed from each other, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's a bit like saying you wish the Anglicans would recognize the Pope. IDGI.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Considering the lack of recognition for Rome is a HUGE part of why the two are schismed from each other, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's a bit like saying you wish the Anglicans would recognize the Pope. IDGI.

Eastern Catholics, who do recognize the Pope, not the Eastern Orthodox which you are thinking about. And there actually are quite a few Anglo-Papists though most of those are probably going to join the new ordinates.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Eastern Catholics, who do recognize the Pope, not the Eastern Orthodox which you are thinking about. And there actually are quite a few Anglo-Papists though most of those are probably going to join the new ordinates.

Too many terms are used for more than one thing. Anyway it'd be such a huge culture shift, I maintain you'd have better luck getting the overall Anglican church to recognize Rome.

I'm aware that some exist, that wasn't what I was saying.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Too many terms are used for more than one thing. Anyway it'd be such a huge culture shift, I maintain you'd have better luck getting the overall Anglican church to recognize Rome.

I'm aware that some exist, that wasn't what I was saying.

Oh I know that which is why I said while I would like to see it happen, I doubt it ever will. Ideally I would love to see something like a return to the old Ecumenical Councils, but again doubt that will happen.

[AGDee]

Every Roman Catholic church I've attended did the Kyrie in traditional Greek during Lent.

There is one church in Detroit that does their high noon mass in Latin every week. It is always packed. I have a cousin who got married in that church (high Italian population attends that church) and had her wedding mass in Latin. I think it's good to have options

[SWTXBelle]

The good news - I can get you a Book of Divine Worship!
The bad news - they now cost $25!

If you are interested, pm me!

[Psi U MC Vito]

That's not too bad actually. My copy of A New Zealand Prayer Book cost more then that and it was used. Check your PMs. And MC, you in on this?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

That's not too bad actually. My copy of A New Zealand Prayer Book cost more then that and it was used. Check your PMs. And MC, you in on this?

I'm examining my discretionary liturgical fund, especially since I have it in pdf. But I do like hard copies.

[Psi U MC Vito]

You have a point, but as a former Roman Catholic, and one who still considers myself a Catholic, I feel I have the right to have some opinion.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

You have a point, but as a former Roman Catholic, and one who still considers myself a Catholic, I feel I have the right to have some opinion.

Oh i know, I have opinions too, it's just weird, ya know?

[SWTXBelle]

Poking around my parish website and found this interesting map of the emerging Anglican Ordinariate:

http://www.walsingham-church.org/site/Liturgy.html

fyi, I love Dr. Brand's discussion of the liturgy.

[Psi U MC Vito]

I found an interesting article on the Ordinates. http://www.theanglocatholic.com/2010...l-ordinariate/