Second Presidential Debate

AGDee · #1 10-07-2008, 10:20 PM

I feel sorry for Tom Brokaw, truly. Other than their complete inability to follow the rules set up by their own people, I've yet to hear anything new or remarkable in this debate. A yawner, really. Perhaps I'm tired but I'm having a hard time even paying attention to this one.

agzg · #2 10-07-2008, 10:37 PM

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I feel sorry for Tom Brokaw, truly. Other than their complete inability to follow the rules set up by their own people, I've yet to hear anything new or remarkable in this debate. A yawner, really. Perhaps I'm tired but I'm having a hard time even paying attention to this one.

What I found more entertaining was the dopey woman in the blue shirt in the back row of one of the sections. She looked like she had some good stuff before that debate!

AND watching McCain's facial expressions while Obama was talking - he made some good ones. Boyfriend and I decided McCain didn't sit down at all because he didn't want people to see him struggle to get up.

AGDee · #3 10-07-2008, 10:41 PM

Actually, McCain standing and moving around while Obama was talking was part of what was distracting me, now that you mention it. I wonder if that was the intended effect?

agzg · #4 10-07-2008, 10:45 PM

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Actually, McCain standing and moving around while Obama was talking was part of what was distracting me, now that you mention it. I wonder if that was the intended effect?

Probably. Well - that and the septuagenarians have a tendency to move around just to make sure the blood's still flowin' to their feet.

Ok - that's enough of the old jokes for me.

I agree - I thought it was a snooze. Although, points for Tom Brokaw for calling them out on going over time (even though both of them tended to, every. single. question.).

pinksirfidel · #5 10-07-2008, 11:06 PM

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Probably. Well - that and the septuagenarians have a tendency to move around just to make sure the blood's still flowin' to their feet.

Ok - that's enough of the old jokes for me.

I agree - I thought it was a snooze. Although, points for Tom Brokaw for calling them out on going over time (even though both of them tended to, every. single. question.).

Maybe that's what most people saw, but I thought McCain might have been a bit excited! I know if that was me, i'd want to be on my feet, ready to answer the next question. I saw that as a positive for McCain... he actually looked a bit younger, staying on his feet.

On the flip side, did anyone notice Obama's stance while he was sitting on the stool? Straight out of a GQ cover shoot! lol.

Agree--Debate was a *yawn* I actually liked when the candidates fought for more follow-up time...finally, something exciting! Overall, I don't think this one will move the numbers either way.

nittanyalum · #6 10-07-2008, 10:39 PM

Obama will without a doubt keep his lead.

ETA: the GOP analysts on CNN agree

ETA2: CNN "flash" polls show all of Obama's numbers went up after debate

awkward1 · #7 10-07-2008, 10:46 PM

*yawn*
I thought that Tom did as good a job as possible trying to reign in the candidates. and I agree that there wasn't much new material presented and I thought both candidates danced around many of the questions. I was impressed at the quality of some of the audience questions, they demonstrated a good understanding of world politics and economics. I thought that Obama did better than I expected given the format that was said to favor McCain. All in all, I am still not swayed either way just yet but I am beginning to lean...........

pbear19 · #8 10-07-2008, 10:54 PM

Across the blogs the one consistent thing I'm seeing mentioned is the "That One" remark. In fact, I've seen the youtube clip of it about 4 times now. Funny how a little thing like that gets legs.

BetteDavisEyes · #9 10-07-2008, 11:15 PM

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Across the blogs the one consistent thing I'm seeing mentioned is the "That One" remark. In fact, I've seen the youtube clip of it about 4 times now. Funny how a little thing like that gets legs.

That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

preciousjeni · #10 10-07-2008, 11:18 PM

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That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

It was condescending and icky.

pinksirfidel · #11 10-07-2008, 11:32 PM

As of 11:30PM...

Who won the debate tonight?
A. McCain - 86%
B. Obama - 12%
C. Undecided - 1%

I didn't think the debate was that clear-cut... but I guess for most Fox News viewers it was.

pinksirfidel · #12 10-07-2008, 11:40 PM

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That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

People are also picking apart the comment McCain made to an audience member... "you probably never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before"... Although that statement stuck out to me, because I wondered who didn't know about Fannie/Freddie, I'm a little over the tid-for-tat in this election...by both the media and the candidates. It's getting old.

DaemonSeid · #13 10-07-2008, 11:55 PM

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People are also picking apart the comment McCain made to an audience member... "you probably never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before"... Although that statement stuck out to me, because I wondered who didn't know about Fannie/Freddie, I'm a little over the tid-for-tat in this election...by both the media and the candidates. It's getting old.

pink another thing that is coming out too (on MSNBC) not only did he say it condescendingly I may add...he was addressing a Black male and also flubbed his name.

some other points

Mcain talked about buying up bad mortgages?

DIDNT THE US GOVT JUST DO THAT LAST WEEK???

another thing

especially since Palin spent the weekend and thru today talkign about it:

McCain had Obama on HIS floor in HIS format that he requested and not ONCE say CRAP about Ayres or Obama's 'questionable' associations?

and one last thing the MSM will pick apart

here is when McCain got unraveled

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...al_debate.html

CrackerBarrel · #14 10-07-2008, 11:07 PM

BOOORING.

There was no point in having a town hall if Brokaw was going to talk more than anyone else - including the candidates.

Not much changed in that, neither one answered anything interesting and just repeated talking points over and over.

The only interesting thing to see will be if the media runs with McCain's mortgage bailout plan, it was the only new thing in the debate tonight and if it gets significant press time he wins for grabbing the headlines. If not, tie, which obviously favors Obama now.

preciousjeni · #15 10-07-2008, 11:17 PM

DANG IT - my post got deleted somehow. Anyway, the short of it was that I'd like to see these two candidates brawl for real. Obama was soft. McCain made some funky comments (e.g. "that one" and the I-guess-it-was-a-joke-

about Brokaw) that got a little eyebrow raise from me.