Do you just eat it or send it back?

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

And when I tell a server to "hold the tomatoes" or whatever, I shouldn't have to tell them I have a food allergy in order to make it happen. If it's such a pain in the ass for that establishment, there are plenty of other places I can get a great meal and service.

I totally I agree, but what do you mean "your point?" I responded to Kappa Kitty or somebody, didn't I? I'm confused!

But you totally do have a point though, my family went out and we ordered water for the table, with all of them having lemon but 1. Sure enough, he brought 5 lemon waters and we had to tell him that my mom is allergic to citrus, go make hers without it like we asked the first time. Though that was something important, we shouldn't have had to say it to make him pay attention. If that had been something in her food that we asked to be taken out, granted we would have been much more clear about the fact that it is an allergy and that it's imperative that lemon be taken out of the dish. However, I feel that saying "hold the lemon" means what it means--no cook/chef/server should be so lazy that they have to be told "She'll die if she eats the lemon" before they do their job right.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Well I'm glad that you are so fortunate to have found a secure job, because here in Michigan it's all some people have. Some people hate serving, but it's the best they can do to get food on the table for their families, or to get them through college, or to pay their rent. You personally wouldn't do it. I wouldn't either. We're fortunate that we don't have to. But others have no choice. I think you're just making excuses for being cheap.

Oh that's just taking it a bit far, don't you think?

Who said anything about being cheap?

Tipping isn't a requirement, cause if it was then it would be included in every bill for every single establishment you go to. Each individual has the right to decide who they will tip to and what they want to tip for. If folks don't like it, they have the right to do differently, but calling someone cheap for not wanting to give a tip is just rude.

And btw, I can personally give you a list of jobs a mile long for the State of MI that folks simply won't apply for, that don't require any experience or degree in that field. Maybe those who are so desperate for a tip can hit the State of MI website and apply for those jobs, and avoid the stress of not making enough in tips.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Oh that's just taking it a bit far, don't you think?

Who said anything about being cheap?

Tipping isn't a requirement, cause if it was then it would be included in every bill for every single establishment you go to. Each individual has the right to decide who they will tip to and what they want to tip for. If folks don't like it, they have the right to do differently, but calling someone cheap for not wanting to give a tip is just rude.

And btw, I can personally give you a list of jobs a mile long for the State of MI that folks simply won't apply for, that don't require any experience or degree in that field. Maybe those who are so desperate for a tip can hit the State of MI website and apply for those jobs, and avoid the stress of not making enough in tips.

No it's not going too far. I could ask a bunch of people how'd they feel about someone who doesn't like to tip (or tips like crap) and they'll all say that person is cheap (given that the service was up to par).

Tipping is not a requirement. But if you don't want to go to a tipping establishment, then make your own food.

And I'd love to see that list.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Sistergreek, I think its apparent that this chick just likes to get the last word in so give it to her..the fact is there are plenty of jobs in most states that people don't want that pays at least the minimum wage...as I said before, people who serve often choose to because of getting paid mostly in cash daily and the flexibility...I choose to help the plight of my fellow man through communty service and charitable donations, not inflated or unnecessary tips If I complained about my unpredictable hours and the mental stress of my job to anyone they would say "look for a new job", this is no different...I joined the USAF on my 18th birthday to better my situation...last I checked they're still hiring...

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Oh that's just taking it a bit far, don't you think?

Who said anything about being cheap?

Tipping isn't a requirement, cause if it was then it would be included in every bill for every single establishment you go to. Each individual has the right to decide who they will tip to and what they want to tip for. If folks don't like it, they have the right to do differently, but calling someone cheap for not wanting to give a tip is just rude.

And btw, I can personally give you a list of jobs a mile long for the State of MI that folks simply won't apply for, that don't require any experience or degree in that field. Maybe those who are so desperate for a tip can hit the State of MI website and apply for those jobs, and avoid the stress of not making enough in tips.

[DSTCHAOS]

I don't know what this thread is about anymore. So here goes:

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/employ/...mwages2006.htm

ETA: I noticed the "tipping" thread said that not all restaurant staff gets minimum wage. That sucks. Who determines whether they do get minimum wage? If they don't get minimum wage, I can see they are dependent on the tips. Oh well.

[33girl]

All this about the take-out from Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's etc...count me as another person who never tips in that situation, and I'm not a cheapskate. I honestly had no idea wait staff had ANY hand in that, and I'm betting most of the public doesn't either. That's shitty that they're made to include that in the things they're doing - especially since the restaurants are REALLY pushing it lately.

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.

[catiebug]

I agree.

At the Dunkin' Donuts near my house, there is a sign inside that says something along the lines of "Please do not tip the workers." Yet they still have their tip jars by the register (and drive-thru).

Originally Posted by 33girl

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by 33girl

All this about the take-out from Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's etc...count me as another person who never tips in that situation, and I'm not a cheapskate. I honestly had no idea wait staff had ANY hand in that, and I'm betting most of the public doesn't either. That's shitty that they're made to include that in the things they're doing - especially since the restaurants are REALLY pushing it lately.

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.

When it comes to take out, I tip occasionally. I never really figured wait staff did much but bag it up and bring it to the counter so I didn't think a tip was really necessary. As for tip jars, the sushi chefs have their own and I am never sure if they get tip share so I try to tip them separately from the waitress in that situation. But what's with Cold Stone having a tip line on their receipts and a tip jar? The people at my Cold Stone don't sing and I'm sure they get paid a regular hourly wage - so what's the tip for?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.

It kills me when they have them at Starbucks et al...I'm already paying $4 for a damn cup of coffee, I'm not making it $5.

[ForeverRoses]

I don't tip in tip jar unless I am at a bar (which is pretty rare lately). It used to crack me up to watch my brother getting ready for the evening crowd at the bar he worked at-- he would always put a few dollars of his own money in the tip jar to start it out.

As for tipping for takeout- usually when I have picked it up it is the hostess or manager that brings me my food, and both of them should make minimum wage, so I don't tip. If it was a server, I will add a couple dollars as a tip, but not 20%.

[LeslieAGD]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips. It's presumptuous & intrusive.

Amen!

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

It kills me when they have them at Starbucks et al...I'm already paying $4 for a damn cup of coffee, I'm not making it $5.

You took the words right out of my mouth! But you know what, I used to go into Starbucks once or twice a week and I'd see the same workers and they knew my face and my favorite drinks and were always so friendly that it would make me feel guilty not to tip. So I'd usually throw some change in even though the whole idea irked me.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by 33girl

All this about the take-out from Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's etc...count me as another person who never tips in that situation, and I'm not a cheapskate. I honestly had no idea wait staff had ANY hand in that, and I'm betting most of the public doesn't either. That's shitty that they're made to include that in the things they're doing - especially since the restaurants are REALLY pushing it lately.

Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.

That's what I tell servers when they get pissed. A lot of people don't know to tip on carry outs. I don't think it's shitty to make them do it. They're still serving the public. In some restaurants, the manager is busy catering to servers needs (helping them run food, putting in food comps, gift certificates, helping keep things filled in the back if the servers are too busy to) so it has to go on the servers.

I understand though that people don't know what exactly goes on behind the scenes at a restaurant. I had no clue about any of this before getting in the business. The only reason I knew to tip on carry outs was because of my friends who were servers. Once you're in the business, you become a lot more sympathetic to those who do it.

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

...But what's with Cold Stone having a tip line on their receipts and a tip jar? The people at my Cold Stone don't sing and I'm sure they get paid a regular hourly wage - so what's the tip for?

I'm not gona lie. I only tip at Cold Stone because I'm sure the teenagers hate doing the song and dance and I think it's funny to have to make them do it.

[twinkle555]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I'm not gona lie. I only tip at Cold Stone because I'm sure the teenagers hate doing the song and dance and I think it's funny to have to make them do it.

haha my BFF in high school LOVED working at Coldstone and loved singing the dumb tip songs even more! it is quite hilarious...