2007-2008 NCAA Football - Page 10

#1 12-02-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Hawaii's strength of schedule was 119th out of 119 teams in Division IA. Sagarin had it as 137th which means that at least 18 DIAA teams had tougher schedules than Hawaii.

Until they can fix that, they won't get into the MNC game.

Why thank you, Captain Obvious.

Explain this to me? Who's "they"? Us? I hope you're not talking about Hawaii. Hawaii tried like hell before this season started: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19605039/

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"Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home."

They can't fix it if teams keep on pussying out. Simple as that.

AOII Angel · #2 12-02-2007, 10:28 PM

G-E-A-U-X, Geaux Tigers, Geaux! I'm so excited about LSU!! Third times the charm.

Kevin · #3 12-02-2007, 10:40 PM

Hawaii can't schedule those games because no one is going to schedule a home and home with a WAC team which is an ocean away. Those games are being canceled in large part due to Hawaii's arrogance in scheduling. Hawaii is not a BCS team, they should not expect to be treated as such.

To BCS teams, Hawaii is and probably always will be just another WAC game -- an easy OOC win. The teams who have dropped decisions to Hawaii at home over the last few years?

Michigan State, Alabama, Purdue and Arizona State.

A fearsome foursome if ever I saw one. MSU has been miserable over the last few years. As I recall, Alabama played Hawaii while it was on probation and very down. Purdue and ASU (excepting this year for ASU) are not exactly contenders in their conferences.

"They" = Hawaii -- thanks for calling me on that, I actually had a professor last year who would have a coronary every time the word was uttered. I should know better.

At least last year, Boise State's BCS win came against what was a pretty darn good Oregon State team (which finished with a 10-4 record).

I don't mean to diminish what Hawaii has accomplished, I wish them luck in their bowl game. I hope they shut the arrogant SEC fans up, but I don't think that'll happen.

AOII Angel · #4 12-02-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jojapeach

I was hoping there'd be some miracle upon miracles where Georgia might have a decent shot at the national title. (I'm thinking Hawaii will only get a decent shot at the national title if they are undefeated next season.) I'm still in disbelief that LSU was pushed back up into the #2 spot just so they could play OSU. Then again, it's the BCS system. Why the hell am I shocked? Georgia Coach Mark Richt said it best: There needs to be documented (not unwritten) rule that only Conference Champs can play for the BCS title. LSU does not deserve to be there since they've obviously been ranked #1 twice but could not hold on to the title. I'm beyond upset.

Here's a link to the bowl games schedule in chronological order: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2836420

I can't cheer for OSU or LSU. OSU has never beat a SEC team for the championship in 8 attempts. LSU is SEC, and I love the SEC, but they're the wrong team.

On the bright side, *singing* Pour some SUGAR on meeeee!!! It'd be nice to see Hawaii do as well in the off-season as they did in the regular season, but I gotta stick with my DAWGS!

ETA: I can't believe I'm hearing the LSU coach talk about their "body of work".

Such wishful thinking on Georgia's part! Y'all not only were not conference champs, you didn't even make it to the game. It would be ridiculous to put Georgia in the final game no matter how well they finished the season. You'll get your chance next year!

jojapeach · #5 12-02-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Such wishful thinking on Georgia's part! Y'all not only were not conference champs, you didn't even make it to the game. It would be ridiculous to put Georgia in the final game no matter how well they finished the season. You'll get your chance next year!

You're right. Wishful thinking it was (and unwavering favortism and faith in my team), but I just don't see how a team that loss it's #1 ranking to an unranked team in triple overtime deserves to play for the national title. Yes, they're the SEC champs, but it wasn't won by a sound beating. Just 21 - 14 over Tennessee. Not very impressive.

Besides, Michigan was denied the #2 slot last year because they had their one shot at #1 against Ohio State. LSU is being granted a third stinking shot at #1. I already knew this, but GAWD THE BCS SUCKS!

Lastly, no written rule that says you must be the Conference Champs. Now, I hate LSU more than ever. (But I can't cheer for Ohio State. Never.)

AOII Angel · #6 12-11-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jojapeach

You're right. Wishful thinking it was (and unwavering favortism and faith in my team), but I just don't see how a team that loss it's #1 ranking to an unranked team in triple overtime deserves to play for the national title. Yes, they're the SEC champs, but it wasn't won by a sound beating. Just 21 - 14 over Tennessee. Not very impressive.

Besides, Michigan was denied the #2 slot last year because they had their one shot at #1 against Ohio State. LSU is being granted a third stinking shot at #1. I already knew this, but GAWD THE BCS SUCKS!

Lastly, no written rule that says you must be the Conference Champs. Now, I hate LSU more than ever. (But I can't cheer for Ohio State. Never.)

You're wrong...Michigan didn't get to the final game last year because NO ONE wanted to see them lose to Ohio State yet again. A lot more goes into the choice than just who is ranked #1 and #2 by the computer. Obviously the computer was wrong since #1 got whipped by UF! LSU gets its third chance because no one else did better. The SEC teams that LSU lost to played their best games of the year against us. Even if Arkansas was unranked, McFadden (who deserved the Heisman) was back and played an awesome game. They would have been better this year if he'd stayed off the injured list. SEC is by far the strongest conference. Even with two losses, we're going to kill Ohio State and prove that point. I think the top 5 SEC teams could beat Ohio State, so Go LSU, Go Tennessee, Go Georgia! Don't hate LSU...we've worked hard to get here. UGA has beaten us too many times to count, but it's our turn now! You may be a better team...hell, we were a better team than UF last year, but you didn't see us running around crying like a bunch of babies! Be happy that the SEC is getting some recognition.

jojapeach · #7 12-25-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You're wrong...Michigan didn't get to the final game last year because NO ONE wanted to see them lose to Ohio State yet again. A lot more goes into the choice than just who is ranked #1 and #2 by the computer. Obviously the computer was wrong since #1 got whipped by UF! LSU gets its third chance because no one else did better. The SEC teams that LSU lost to played their best games of the year against us. Even if Arkansas was unranked, McFadden (who deserved the Heisman) was back and played an awesome game. They would have been better this year if he'd stayed off the injured list. SEC is by far the strongest conference. Even with two losses, we're going to kill Ohio State and prove that point. I think the top 5 SEC teams could beat Ohio State, so Go LSU, Go Tennessee, Go Georgia! Don't hate LSU...we've worked hard to get here. UGA has beaten us too many times to count, but it's our turn now! You may be a better team...hell, we were a better team than UF last year, but you didn't see us running around crying like a bunch of babies! Be happy that the SEC is getting some recognition.

I'm sorry that you're always long-winded, but I essentially said the same thing about the '06 Michigan team without expounding.

How about...if I wanted to be a crybaby at that moment, I have the right. You have the right to go on and on when you really should shut up and not worry about UGA fans (or at the least me).

And the SEC always gets recognition. You're obviously not a real (arrogant) SEC fan.

macallan25 · #8 12-15-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jojapeach

You're right. Wishful thinking it was (and unwavering favortism and faith in my team), but I just don't see how a team that loss it's #1 ranking to an unranked team in triple overtime deserves to play for the national title. Yes, they're the SEC champs, but it wasn't won by a sound beating. Just 21 - 14 over Tennessee. Not very impressive.

Besides, Michigan was denied the #2 slot last year because they had their one shot at #1 against Ohio State. LSU is being granted a third stinking shot at #1. I already knew this, but GAWD THE BCS SUCKS!

Lastly, no written rule that says you must be the Conference Champs. Now, I hate LSU more than ever. (But I can't cheer for Ohio State. Never.)

Not very impressive? They used a backup that did nothing but run the ball all year and hadn't thrown a pass in a month. 464 yards of offense w/ 200+ yards rushing on a fairly good defense is pretty impressive.

No, their isn't a rule saying you have to be your conference champs. There shouldn't have to be. It should be understood by everyone who isn't void of rational thought that if you don't even make your conference championship game you have no business being in the national title game. Shouldn't have lost to Tennessee or South Carolina.

The only team, in my opinion, that had a pretty solid argument for getting in the BCS Championship was Oklahoma....and that was a shaky argument at best. Some will say USC had a claim also.....I'm not buying it. Losing to Stanford at home, not being the least bit dominant in any game except Notre Dame.....not impressive.

Kevin · #9 12-03-2007, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

I'd put LSU at number two. Their losses are the least obscene of the two-loss teams. And their wins are better than the others as well.
I know OU beat #1 Missouri, but I think they were a little overrated, AND that loss to Colorado is not easily made up for.

As for Georgia, they're ALWAYS good, but just can't quite seem to cut it in the end.

Poor buckeyes!

The Big XII is just so strong top to bottom. The teams really beat up on each other. It's tough for anyone to run that kind of a gauntlet. That said, OU lost to Texas Tech on the road without their quarterback by 6 points. They lost to CU on the road by 3 points after a really poorly timed turnover.

LSU is pretty lucky this year. 5 plays away from going 7-5. Two losses at home to marginal bowl teams, and a near loss to the Tennessee team due to a fluky interception.

AGDLynn · #10 12-03-2007, 08:07 AM

Go DAWGS!

ISUKappa · #11 12-03-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

The Big XII is just so strong top to bottom. The teams really beat up on each other. It's tough for anyone to run that kind of a gauntlet. That said, OU lost to Texas Tech on the road without their quarterback by 6 points. They lost to CU on the road by 3 points after a really poorly timed turnover.

I don't know if I agree the Big XII is strong top to bottom (hello, Baylor and even my own Cyclones?) but there were definitely a lot of surprises and upsets. This year was just a strange one overall for NCAA Football. It is nice to see 3 Big XII teams in the BCS top 10, with two of those being Big XII North teams.

SthrnZeta · #12 12-03-2007, 05:11 PM

Congrats to Hawaii for joining the party, yes. And good for them for only losing one game of the season (c'mon, this will be one of the few GOOD teams they will have played so it's understandable that they'll lose).

Kevin · #13 12-03-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

Congrats to Hawaii for joining the party, yes. And good for them for only losing one game of the season (c'mon, this will be one of the only GOOD teams they will have played so it's understandable that they'll lose).

fixed.

SthrnZeta · #14 12-03-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

fixed.

LOL, I hadn't watched every Hawaii (or any) games so I didn't want to be wrong and say "only."

Let's face it, it's gonna be a cupcake game. It's easy to be undefeated when you play other crappy teams... Not so easy when you're playing top 10 teams and winning

#15 12-03-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

Congrats to Hawaii for joining the party, yes. And good for them for only losing one game of the season (c'mon, this will be one of the few GOOD teams they will have played so it's understandable that they'll lose).

And it's my hope (and the hope of an entire state) that they'll actually win just to shut presumptious people like you up.

We've seen a whole bunch of #1s and nationally ranked teams get upset this season. I wouldn't place your bets on it just yet.

But hey...bring on the naysayers. We understand y'all are pissed off so it's naturally it's understandable to take out your frustrations on us because your team got the shaft.