Mary Kay - Watch Out!

[Xylochick216]

Originally posted by judsiekitty
Not that I am aware of. I recently read a book called "the Maker's Diet" by Jordan Rubin and saw a film called "do no harm..." and, after my personal experiences with doctors, do not really have a lot of faith in the medical establishment at this time. I'm not saying that doctors are bad people. It's just that most of them have been trained to give us drugs. I was battling Chronic Fatigue Syndrome when I read the book by Jordan and his incredible story about having almost died from Chrone's Disease in his early 20's. He goes to our church as well so it's common knowledge that his story is true. He tried regular doctors, alternative medicines and remedies for years and almost died. His diet is awesome and healthy and I have lost 15 pounds because it helped me get over my chronic fatigue syndrome. This lead to me look for healthier alternatives for make-up, shampoo, deodorant and more, which lead me to this company. Period. Is my company the only one that offers these products? Absolutely not. You can get them wherever you want...but you should get skincare and cosmetics from a company that does not use mineral oils (from crude oil) and that does not base their formulas on chemicals.
I highly recommend the book, which is based on the Old Testament...and in no way profit from its sales ladies

Wow, are you one of those crazy Mary Kay ladies who puts self-help quotes on all surfaces of your homes? I've seen several who do that. They have no friends. They defintiely terrify me.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by judsiekitty
but you should get skincare and cosmetics from a company that does not .....does not base their formulas on chemicals.

I love it when people equate "natural" with being good.
Poison Ivy is natural...would you rub that on your face?

Le sigh......

[33girl]

Someone drank the Kool-Aid. Quarts and quarts of it.

And incidentally it's spelled Crohn's.

[judsiekitty]

Stay terrified I have plenty of friends.
Oh, and we have 161 licensed medical doctors carrying our products that I know of from our team...40 are right here in Palm Beach County...OBGYN's and Dermatologists.
I don't think they are purchasing much poison ivy.
I also love people who think their little quips are so brilliant. It's easy to throw out little one liners...much harder to actually do your homework.


Only the truly miserable people spend so much effort being negative.

[judsiekitty]

Originally posted by Xylochick216
Wow, are you one of those crazy Mary Kay ladies who puts self-help quotes on all surfaces of your homes? I've seen several who do that. They have no friends. They defintiely terrify me.

Actually it's spelled "definitely" since we're correcting spelling

[judsiekitty]

Originally posted by Xylochick216
Wow, are you one of those crazy Mary Kay ladies who puts self-help quotes on all surfaces of your homes? I've seen several who do that. They have no friends. They defintiely terrify me.

I have never had anything to do with Mary Kay. I think the stuff sucks personally. But that's just my opinion.
Sorry to hear that your friends are so weird though. I don't think I've ever seen self help quotes pasted all over someone's wall. However, it's interesting to judge someone you've never seen over the internet. I picture you with a cigarette and some curlers in a moo-moo with husky man voice.
This is fun!!!!

[ZetaStorm]

This thread was so funny to me so I had to share.
I used to dislike MK due to a really bad experience with a director. I've always wanted to own my own business so I had a problem with having Mary Kay's name pinned on my chest. I couldn''t see making MK richer. Now if Mary Kay (the owner) and I were going to be bringing in the same kind of money then we could talk.

This director was obnoxious, rude and pushy. I don't like pink cars and at the time that's all they were offering. Personally I like BMWs (black at that!) All of this I told her at a meeting.

It would be 10 years later that I would meet another MK director in a different state who was the complete opposite. She's had about 4 MK cars as well. She was going through a lot with her husband so she wasn't really out recruiting and selling product. She had a lot of product.

I told her it's all in how you look at the situation. To me it didn't make sense to buy all of that product and then let it sit on the shelf and go bad. So we sat up all night for 3 nights in a row going through product, creating a customer database and marketing materials compliments of those MK brochures and some excellent graphics software. She is now my business partner.

If you're a retailer you can buy product at wholesale. MK is really no different. It can not be denied that there are some people who are LOYAL to MK products. As a business owner you'd have to be a fool not to cash in on that market. These customers don't care if you're a director or whatever. Just deliver.

We sell customized gift baskets. We use MK products, Avon products, products we purchase from other wholesalers, etc. We mostly target major holidays. Our biggest sales are on Christmas, Valentine's Day and Mother's Day.


The money we spend on buying MK product is pocket change in comparison to the money we make from the product. We include other items in the baskets such as purses, other perfume samples, chocolates, roses, flowers, cards, scented candles, CDS, elegant keepsake basket, etc. You do the math: $150-$200 per basket times 100+ a day times a minimum of 7 days during the holidays mentioned above.

Our clients are businesses, executives, schools, etc. We also have lower priced baskets for individuals who just want a simple birthday or baby/bridal shower gift. So this is a business we don't even have to work everyday. The first Christmas we were in business we sold completely out!

Guess who our number 1 customers are? #1 Men (mostly executives) #2 Highschool boys trying to impress highschool girls especially at Valentine's (Most of their baskets are sold at $10-$20. We use money from this business to fund our other businesses and buy product, etc.

So my advice is to not get caught up in the hype. I stuck to my guns and found a way to make my dreams a reality. I didn't let that sales director hoodwink or discourage me. You see MK really isn't bad it's just like life in general it's what YOU make it.

[LenBias]

This is so tru.....All of yall that are working for any corpoartion or the government are the ones that are truly being hoodwinked. Anytime you are working for somebody else you are working to build their dream. At least now I know I am workin to build my dream. And I see the benefits already(2mos) since joining Agel. For real If I never maid any money in Agel, I would do it for the tax benefits alone. But its alot of misonceptions about MLM. And I dont push anything on anybody. I show them an opportunity. If they see it thats fine if not thats cool. I am looking for people that are looking. There are some "schams" out there,and those are the companies that give MLM a bad name.. But most MLM companies are great companies.

Originally posted by judsiekitty
I have been reading a lot of negative things about multi-level marketing. All companies are not using "pyramid schemes" in direct sales. It is a perfectly legitimate form of getting products to customers without the high costs of distributing, advertising, and retailing. I personally own an Arbonne business that allows me to share products with other people that will allow them to live longer healthier lives. I do not push products on my recruits and this is not a pyramid because the I really do spend time giving them valuable training so they can successfully replace their income by working from home. The real pyramid schemes are the corporations. Hello, the CEO is making money off of thousands of peoples work...not to mention it's a good ole boy network. You don't get ahead in the corporate world by working hard. You get ahead by kissing major butt.
I am not pushy at all. I just really believe the products will help people so it's natural for me to talk to people about them.
I think the key to MLM is to find products that you really believe in and love. Don't people recommend their favorite TV shows, songs, stores, foods, restaurants, etc..., to others all the time. Why shouldn't I get paid for being a walking advertisement?

[LenBias]

I know tons of people who have made major $ in MLM...so to me its is far from a scham....MLM is helping me reach my dreams as we speak...its a scam how your employer makes you think your ,401k or your pesnion is gonna secure your future...thats a real scam....

[blueangel]

Len, I'm sorry you've become a victim of yet another Multi Level Marketing rip-off. You probably believed the hard sell you were given. Tell me.. how much did they make you pay up-front to become a distributor?

A person on another website wrote this, regarding what LenBias is trying to push:


Dear Agel Rep,

Why sell gel when u can give your account number and some dude in nigeria will t/t millions (YES.. MILLIONS of US$) of dollars to your account?

All they ask is that u return some to them (probably somewhere in the region of 75%-90% for your favor!)

Lost Sheep

http://www.alloexpat.com/malaysia_ex...10331&start=90

Len, you said lots of people make money in MLM-- well... the truth is.. the only people who make "lots of money" are the people who start these scams and are at the very, very, very top of the food chain.

There was another MLM scam going around where I work called Meliluca. These people had drunk the kool aide and were trying to recruit, non-stop.. even at my company on company time! They are truly brainwashed, and it's really quite scarey.

People in my company complained to HR, and these people were banned from bugging anyone at work. So they took their pitch outside of their jobs.. they were bugging their family, their friends, EVERYONE to join (there was little money in selling the product-- it was all about recruiting bodies and getting them to pay up front for the products each new rep were forced to buy and got stuck with!)

Five years later-- none of these people had made any money. All gave up, and all lost hundreds of dollars.

[Leslie Anne]

Hey, "Len",

Why are you trying to pass yourself off as a long-dead basketball player? I knew Len when we were both at the University of Maryland. He was friends with one of my roommates. It's just strange to see someone use his name. His life was so sadly cut short.

[LenBias]

I got the name because my real name is "Lenny" .....so my teammates and my LB's just started calling me Len Bias..he was a great ball player inspite of all his issues.....thats why the name just kinda stuck

Originally posted by Leslie Anne
Hey, "Len",

Why are you trying to pass yourself off as a long-dead basketball player? I knew Len when we were both at the University of Maryland. He was friends with one of my roommates. It's just strange to see someone use his name. His life was so sadly cut short.

[LenBias]

Like I said me...I dont bug anyone...i show them the opportunity and leave it at that..If they choose to come on board cool if not thats cool too....Im still gettin my $....that tax benefits ALONE was a major pay day for me......but I dont bug anyone like I said..Im sure some MLM companies do that but that not howwe do things at Agel....not to mention alot of the products we have are doing alot of postives things for my family and friends..so thats good enough for me in and of itself....Im sorry for your negative experiences with MLM.l.I reallly am....but as for me..just in my first couple of months with AGEL things couldnt be better.....and Im not brainwashed so you can CANCEL that right there..i am my own man b4 anything else....i evalauted Agel..weighed the Pros and Cons..and the benfits far out weighed the negatives......and calling me "Victim"..How? My tax return went up a couple of thousand dollars....and im makin about a $1000 per month already..and Im 22...shit if you call that being a victim..TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ME ALL DAY.....but yeah..I am with a great comapny and I am working with great people...what other job can you choose who you work with? I cant think of any....and Agel or MLM is not for everyone..and it was clearly not for you...I wish you nothing but success and Financial Freedom at your career

Originally posted by blueangel
Len, I'm sorry you've become a victim of yet another Multi Level Marketing rip-off. You probably believed the hard sell you were given. Tell me.. how much did they make you pay up-front to become a distributor?

A person on another website wrote this, regarding what LenBias is trying to push:


Dear Agel Rep,

Why sell gel when u can give your account number and some dude in nigeria will t/t millions (YES.. MILLIONS of US$) of dollars to your account?

All they ask is that u return some to them (probably somewhere in the region of 75%-90% for your favor!)

Lost Sheep

http://www.alloexpat.com/malaysia_ex...10331&start=90

Len, you said lots of people make money in MLM-- well... the truth is.. the only people who make "lots of money" are the people who start these scams and are at the very, very, very top of the food chain.

There was another MLM scam going around where I work called Meliluca. These people had drunk the kool aide and were trying to recruit, non-stop.. even at my company on company time! They are truly brainwashed, and it's really quite scarey.

People in my company complained to HR, and these people were banned from bugging anyone at work. So they took their pitch outside of their jobs.. they were bugging their family, their friends, EVERYONE to join (there was little money in selling the product-- it was all about recruiting bodies and getting them to pay up front for the products each new rep were forced to buy and got stuck with!)

Five years later-- none of these people had made any money. All gave up, and all lost hundreds of dollars.

[blueangel]

Len, you still didn't answer my question...

How much money were you required to pay upfront to get started in the company?

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by blueangel
Len, you still didn't answer my question...

How much money were you required to pay upfront to get started in the company?

For MK it costs 100.00 for your starter kit. But that includes a full size product of every fondation, lotion, cleanser, etc etc.


I dont' understand why this thread is still living on.