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Denise_DPhiE · #1 02-22-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Erik P Conard
It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide,
and furthermore I have one grunch but the eggplant over there.

You hangin' with Earp sipping mint julips this fine afternoon??

Denise

adpiucf · #2 04-13-2006, 10:08 AM

This is less a question and more of a common fallacy...

The reason some campuses don't have sororities houses is just due to either lack of money to build or lack of available land to build upon.

Repeat after me: There is no such thing a brothel law!!!

honeychile · #3 04-13-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
This is less a question and more of a common fallacy...

The reason some campuses don't have sororities houses is just due to either lack of money to build or lack of available land to build upon.

Repeat after me: There is no such thing a brothel law!!!

There is no such thing a brothel law!!!

There is no such thing a brothel law!!!

Actually, there IS a third option: the University involved have mandated that all sororities must "live" on campus and has provided Townhouses, Suites, or Chapter Rooms for them.

audaz49 · #4 04-13-2006, 01:39 PM

and there are laws which could possibly prevent sorority women from living together - some cities provide that no more than x amount of non-related persons live in the same dwelling.... though i know ames, ia has such a law, and also has fraternity/sorority houses - how the exception works, i don't know... i haven't looked into it that deeply

SouthernSweet · #5 09-02-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by audaz49

and there are laws which could possibly prevent sorority women from living together - some cities provide that no more than x amount of non-related persons live in the same dwelling.... though i know ames, ia has such a law, and also has fraternity/sorority houses - how the exception works, i don't know... i haven't looked into it that deeply

I wonder the same thing....my cousin went to East Tennessee State University and all of the sororities there have suites and all of the fraternities have houses....it's always been like that.

She was always told that was the reason.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

#6 09-02-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernSweet

I wonder the same thing....my cousin went to East Tennessee State University and all of the sororities there have suites and all of the fraternities have houses....it's always been like that.

She was always told that was the reason.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

THERE IS NO BROTHEL LAW.

Tom Earp · #7 09-02-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

THERE IS NO BROTHEL LAW.

THANK YOU!

Maybe some wil realize it?

SouthernSweet · #8 09-10-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW

THERE IS NO BROTHEL LAW.

I read the link, and it says that it's a myth, but doesn't really explain why you find fraternity houses in so many areas and not sorority houses, which was my question.

The link you posted did have one bit of incorrect information:

That building or buying a fraternity or sorority house is always an exception with city ordinances...this is 100% not true.

Cities generally (and these are very broad catagories) have 3 types of zoning: Multi-family, Single Family Residential and Business. Frat houses are always zoned multi-family...not business.

You can have a residential property in an area zoned business, but not the other way around because it interferes with the "quiet enjoyment" of the neighbors...that is why you see the Greek houses located on property that has been leased from or owned by the colleges, because they are zoned business.

At ETSU, what happened there in 1987 to 1990, is the city decided they were going to get rid of the frat houses....they sent a city inspector in to look for fire and building violations, and wrote them up on everything they could. They gave them 6 months to correct the violations or the city was going to condemn the property....all was very legal.

That left the brothers scrambling to raise money for repairs and calling alumnae for help...they were able to raise the money, met the deadline and kept their houses.

In retaliation, and from pressure from the neighbors, because this action didn't get rid of them...the city did the next best thing they could legally do...revoked the variance that had been granted and rezoned the property single-family residential...this meant that the frat houses could continue to operate under legal-non-conforming (also commonly called grandfathered) ...this also means something else: If the house burns down past the fame, the city can deny them a permit to rebuild and use the house as they did before. This will force the fraternity to sell the property.

This is also 100% legal and done by city planning all the time. Also, if the house ever shuts down or changes hands (being sold from one frat to another if one folds), they can't do that either...b/c the city won't extend the zoning to the property transfer. The only way around it is for the new frat to lease the property from the old frat....but they can't buy it because that is legally a property transfer.

There is one frat on campus that has no house, and they'll never be able to get one unless the college has property that they will let them build one on.

Tom Earp · #9 09-10-2006, 10:35 AM

SoutherSweet,

there many campuses where this is the norm.

Why? I don't know if anyone can give a true answer.

I know in the KC metro Schools, none have Sorority houses.

33girl · #10 09-10-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernSweet

I read the link, and it says that it's a myth, but doesn't really explain why you find fraternity houses in so many areas and not sorority houses, which was my question.

I addressed this in one of the 80 ookabillion brothel threads.

It's often one of two things:

1) The school was all male for a long time until females started going there, by which time all the available land had been taken.

2) The school had many more parietal rules for females than males, often requiring them to live in the dorms, and didn't get rid of them for many many years, by which time all available land had been taken.

And then there's always

3) The women are too namby pamby to make a fuss and prove people wrong who tell them there are brothel laws, and therefore dig their own holes.

THERE IS NOT, NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN, A BROTHEL LAW ANYWHERE IN THE USA.

And as far as what fraternity houses are zoned, I beleve that varies from state to state and also depends on what the fraternity house itself is like.

AlphaFrog · #11 04-13-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by audaz49
and there are laws which could possibly prevent sorority women from living together - some cities provide that no more than x amount of non-related persons live in the same dwelling.... though i know ames, ia has such a law, and also has fraternity/sorority houses - how the exception works, i don't know... i haven't looked into it that deeply

Umm... What?

A) Where's the "and" come from??? Who starts a post in the middle of a sentence with "and"???

B) I'm sorry your shift button is broken. Invest $10 in a new keyboard.

C) Where did you find this law? What? Your best friend's uncle who lives three towns over has a cousin in Ames that dates the mayor's niece and she told you. Then I'm sure it's 100% true. Really.

Edited because I can't spell...but my SHIFT key sure works!

Ch2tf · #12 04-13-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Umm... What?
A) Where's the "and" come from??? Who starts a post in the middle of a sentence with "and"???
B) I'm sorry your shift button is broken. Invest $10 in a new keyboard.
C) Where did you find this law? What? Your best friend's uncle who lives three towns over has a cousin in Ames that dates the mayor's niece and she told you. Then I'm sure it's 100% true. Really.

I won't say that it is a brothel law for sure because I myself didn't investigate it, but I lived in New Orleans during grad school, and I know that sorority women are NOT allowed to live in their houses. Those that don't have residence somewhere else off campus, live in the dorms. I've heard it is due to a brothel law, and being New Orleans it wouldn't surprise me if it was due to such law, but again I can't prove it...as of yet.

kddani · #13 04-13-2006, 02:12 PM

If there was a law, it wouldn't be a "brothel" law, it would be a law against a certain amount of unrelated people (not just women) living together. Not a brothel law, not a law only applicable to women. There would be no way to enforce a law that only applied to women living together and no men, as it would be unconstitutionally discriminatory.

SOPi_Jawbreaker · #14 04-13-2006, 02:24 PM

http://www.snopes.com/college/halls/brothel.asp

CutiePie2000 · #15 04-13-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by KLPDaisy
I really, really, really wanna be in an NPHC sorority, but I don't know which one. Can I rush all of them? Also do you think I can wear a pink suit with a green top to AKA's rush? And I'm white, do you think that will hurt my chances?

Or better yet:
"I *AM GOING TO BE* be an AKA, and I have rented out the Goodyear Blimp (painted in pink and green, no less) to fly over _____ University proclaiming that I am GOING TO join them."

oy......