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Old 08-21-2003, 11:50 PM
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But you are when I am asked to support something that goes totally against what I believe in.

Its no different than someone asking your GLO to support something that totally went against the the goals and purposes of your GLO.
Do you support the right of Hindu's and Buddhists to worship?

If allowing homosexuals to marry is "supporting" homosexuality then allowing Buddhists and Hindu's to worship is supporting their religion...

And unless you are a extremely liberal Christian - their religions are totally against that Christians believe in (2nd commandment)...
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Old 08-22-2003, 01:29 AM
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Do you support the right of Hindu's and Buddhists to worship?

If allowing homosexuals to marry is "supporting" homosexuality then allowing Buddhists and Hindu's to worship is supporting their religion...

And unless you are a extremely liberal Christian - their religions are totally against that Christians believe in (2nd commandment)...

Regarding other religions (others that do not belive in Christ being the Son of God), there are laws in place that protect ALL of our rights exist and to worship. That does not meant that I believe in the idealogy that is taught by other religions.

In my post that you quoted, I can not support the passage of this law, since in this instance, gay unions are not legalized and I am in a position to do something about it. Does that mean that if or when gay unions are legalized that I support it because it is "A LAW"? Obviously not.

Ok, this is my last post because I am getting tired of playing "Bait the Christian". My opinion and the reasons behind my opinion HAS NOT CHANGED! Seeing how I have already presented this information, for those who are truly wanting further references/passages/explanations, please PM me.
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Old 08-22-2003, 01:35 AM
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Honeykiss1974:

I'm sorry if you saw that as "bait"... but I'm just trying to understand your reasoning. Pretty well everyone I know is for gay marriage being law... so I'm just not used to people being so strongly against it. I do not see this discussion as one of "changing minds", but as one for us to understand one another's reasoning.

I suppose my comment comparing homosexuality to religion was flawed in the sense that in my country, it is unconstitutional to descriminate based on religion or sexual orientation. The United States does not have such a clause as of yet.
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Old 08-22-2003, 01:46 AM
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I suppose my comment comparing homosexuality to religion was flawed in the sense that in my country, it is unconstitutional to descriminate based on religion or sexual orientation. The United States does not have such a clause as of yet.
I have posted that clause in this thread - taken from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom
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Old 08-22-2003, 02:58 AM
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Why should we make everyone in this country adhere to Christian rules and regulations when many, many of us are not Christians?

I've always wondered that myself.
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:03 AM
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Re: Someone say genetics???

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Which one of you want to be married if gay marriage is legalized in the United States?

Some folks arguments are really passionate here... So, some nerves are being hit 'cuz they want something...

So who wants to be married?
I don't personally plan to marry a woman. But I do want my gay friends to be free to share in the same expressions of love as I am able to.
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Old 08-22-2003, 05:51 PM
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my question for this thread is this: is ANYONE trying to make ANYONE ELSE fully support this being passed? all i am trying to do is let my opinion be known on the subject, and perhaps enlighten (if i dare to use such a big strong word ) someone else to see that as far as this topic goes, it's a choice. (warning, english majors....big fat long possible run-on ahead: ) not a choice to be gay or not to be gay, or to love what these ppl are doing, but a choice to let two ppl who, yeah, may not be living in the ways according to the Bible, but in a way that is not affecting anyone but themselves. this "act of homosexuality" or whatever is not (and should not, IMO) going to be punished under our laws, but in the end will be dealt with by the one person who should be dealing with it. no one is asking anyone to officiate over the ceremony or go to it or support it even.....just to let it be. you may not like it, God Himself may not even like it.....but they have the right to make their own choices or mistakes or whatever just as everyone has that God-given, America-given right. right?
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Old 08-23-2003, 01:09 PM
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Re: Re: Per Sugar n Spice's request......

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Old 08-23-2003, 01:16 PM
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against it.
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Old 08-25-2003, 08:06 PM
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Yes they should be allowed to get married, I think that in this day and age when we are supposed to be an accepting community its ridiculous that they can't get married.
Now obviously they can't be married in the church but in the eyes of the law they should be able to legalize their love for one another. I have plenty of gay friends and if they find that special someone that they want to spend the rest of their life with they should get married and perhaps even start a family. They are just as capable as everyone else.

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Old 08-25-2003, 08:42 PM
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Re: Someone say genetics???

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Which one of you want to be married if gay marriage is legalized in the United States?
Me....but I was going to do it, legal or not.
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Old 08-25-2003, 09:45 PM
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Re: Someone say genetics???

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So who wants to be married?
I want to be married, but I'm in a heterosexual relationship. I just want my friends to be able to share their love in the same way, with the same legal and social protections we take for granted.
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Old 08-31-2003, 09:50 AM
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Human Rights Supporter

I believe in equality and support civil rights for ALL humans. Therefore, I fully support (any kind of) marriage. I'm caucasian and I married a Filipino. I don't believe in different degrees of racism. If you're against gay marriage, you're also against interracial marriage. Period. There's no "gray" area when it comes to racism.
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