Pittsburgh Area Greek Chat gathering!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by SATX*APhi
That's my grandpa's birthday!

Are you serious?! I may have met 5 people in my LIFE with the same birthday!! For some reason, the 13th of every month is not a very popular day...!

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by fire1977
OOOHhhhh, I see thanks Killarney! That was my guess but I just wanted to confirm!

It serves them right though! They've been so obvious about it and they just got in trouble for it about 3-4 years ago!!

Really? They were huge hazers back when I was there, too. Everyone in the greek world knew it, but it never seemed to hurt their numbers. I remember when I was a pledge we were standing as a group in front of Amos waiting to be picked up for a mixer and we saw their pledges filing into the building all carrying their mattresses. And our pledge mom said, that she couldn't believe the _________'s never got in trouble for hazing.

Oh, and way back when each sorority had its own group of tables in the Towers Cafeteria and the pledges sat at their own table and had to stand holding their trays until a sister told them they could sit. Sometimes those girls stood for a loooooong time

Despite that, I had a lot of friends in the sorority. Well, it's not like they were hazing me !

[fire1977]

I pm'd you! But they don't do anything like that anymore!

I lied when I said two weeks till recruitment more like 3 but I get confused easily. Now if only someone from Pitt would do a rush thread *closes eyes real tight and says "please please please can we have a Pitt rush thread"*

Happy b-day Danielle!!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by fire1977
I pm'd you! But they don't do anything like that anymore!

I lied when I said two weeks till recruitment more like 3 but I get confused easily. Now if only someone from Pitt would do a rush thread *closes eyes real tight and says "please please please can we have a Pitt rush thread"*

Happy b-day Danielle!!

I have actually considered making signs that say, "Interested in Sorority? www.greekchat.com" and putting them in various places - just to try to get a local woman to post a Pitt, CMU or Duquesne thread!!

I think I have a real problem...

[DeltAlum]

Hey, have you guys seen the Ohio GC Gathering thread? Columbus isn't that far from Pittsburgh is it?

[honeychile]

LOL - I go to Columbus for the occasional soccer game! It's about 3 hours or so.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by honeychile
LOL - I go to Columbus for the occasional soccer game! It's about 3 hours or so.

So, if you go over for beefcake, why not for cheesecake?

See, he meeting is at a cheescake place...

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[salacity18]

Back to the recruitment thing, yes, sororities are at total in the fall, but there are never over 50% in the spring. As for us taking the green book literally, news flash Pitt, does NOT do that. There should be no organized spring recruitment, we are still deciding if we can shake hands with a girl (which is okay by the green book.) We do not want alumni to talk to girls, which excludes a huge part of membership and the idea of life long membership, which NPC advocates and I hope your nationals do to. The major problem with Pitt Panhellenic is the fact that smaller chapters allow bigger chapters to make the decisions when it comes to expanding membership, for god sakes a chapter did not want smaller chapters to be able to bring in collegiates from other local schools to help them recruit. Seriously, before we talk about expansion and raising total, Pitt sororities need to work out the internal problem. Just pointing out a fact that 7 sororities did not have total in the spring, TPA, ADPi, DPhiE, AEPhi, SSS, KKG, SDT all took girls in the spring that is 7 sororities under total and only 4 over.

[kddani]

KKG and SSS rushing was a very rare thing. And they rushed to total. They chose to do that instead of COB. I'm not sure which, but another of those groups made total in the spring.
And check the attitude, sheesh. Contrary to what you make think, fire1977 and I both have a pretty good handle of what's going on at Pitt. Being that she's an advisor and I just graduated very recently and am still very active.

And newsflash for you, KAT before they left campus was allowed to bring in girls from another campus to rush for them. ADPi did so a couple rushes ago also. None of the groups on campus, except many one who seems happy at their size, has a need to bring in girls from other campuses. That should only be done if you don't have the numbers to be able to do formal rush. Rush groups are only around 20 or so usually.
If you have that big of a beef with panhel, then you should talk to your sorority's national NPC delegate. Yeah they do things screwy, but they're not going to do your rush for you. It's not that hard to make a turn around. Hell, my chapter has done a total 180 over the course of the past several years. Yeah it takes some hard work and dedicated sisters, but it's not that hard. You've gotta fix your own problems.

ETA: ADPi and DPhiE are doing it- making a major effort in increase numbers, etc and become stronger houses. If the rest of the groups did it too, our greek system would be awesome.

[TPARose]

Eek!! Misscommunitcation is a bad thing!

I think when Salacity18 was talking about alumni, she was being unclear, and it might have been misstranslated. As it stands now, our panhel does not want to allow alumni participate in rush, besides standing there and carrying food. Personally, for our house this creates a problem, because the alumni participate actively in our preference ritual in order to show that the sorority last a lifetime not just four years. This is an important part of sorority life, this can not be argued. However, if Panhel votes to keep alumni completely segregated, then the only thing that we can do is violate their rules, because we arent allowed to change our ritual.

Also, I think its a lot to assume that houses are happy with their numbers. I know a lot of sisters from the smaller house on campus, and they have been trying their hardest to get more numbers because otherwise they remain under the eye of their international organization. It looked like they were starting to pull away last year, but now they are almost back to square one. I agree that a lot can be said about hard work and dedication, but sometimes that isn't enough.

Thirdly, spring rush, in the years that I have been at Pitt, has been utilized by everyone. In the past three years, Tri Sigma has used it twice, so I dont nessicarily think that it is rare. Granted, a lot of the time chapters join spring rush by inciting early alumhood with their senoirs, but two out of three of the years that I have been here, all but two houses go through spring rush. These are not even the same houses each year. Please correct me if this was not the trend before my time.

Lastly, I think that this whole argument comes abou because of descrepancies in understanding of the green book. Do over half of the chapters have to be at ceiling BEFORE or AFTER recruitment?


*Libby*


p.s. Personally, I am a big fan of what DPhiE and ADPi have done in the past year, year and a half, not to mention KD.. It takes a lot of dedication.

p.p.s. does anyone know house numbers right now? (We are at 45)

p.p.s.s. If anyone wants to know how HENIOUS the recruitment shirts are for that ________ unspoken group PM me. They live up to the negative stigma that many GDIs subscribe to. Ewwww.

[33girl]

Dani - the 9th is Mr 33's niece's birthday too!! He's out of town all weekend, so I would definitely be up for something on Friday.

I can't believe that y'all can't have active alum participation (other than food handling) at rush, since you are lucky enough to be in an area where alums actually LIVE and have ACTIVE alum chapters. Try getting alums to schlep up to (insert state school name here) to help out - except for the 2.5 that live there, it's a giant pain in the ass and probably why so many of those systems are having trouble.

[WhirlwindTNX]

Hey guys! I'm going to convention tonight!!! It's a 16 hour drive to Florida. . .before you wince let me say that we have 6 drivers. . .so it won't be bad at all. Wish us luck!!!!


ONE Luv,
Shelbs

[upsilontpa]

salacity18 has no problem with panhellenic, trust me...she was on the executive board several years ago...

the thing is, npc unanimous agreements are meant to be followed exactly. npc recommendations are more flexible. if we didn't follow the unanimous agreements, i could, say, decide to disaffiliate from my chapter and walk over to CMU and sign a bid card with another sorority.

in accordance with this, 50% of the pitt sororities must be at chapter total for one calendar year, meaning that if they are at 70 sisters after fall recruitment, and graduate 11 in April, then they have 59 sisters going into the summer months, and are no longer considered at chapter total.

furthermore, if we were to add another chapter, where would we put them? none of the NPHC or associate panhellenic chapters have housing as of yet. then there's that whole clause about on campus/off campus greek housing, so unless pitt's going to build some kind of multi-million dollar greek complex by tearing up all of South Oakland, it's probably not going to happen any time soon, unfortunately.

also, i think that all of the sorority chapters on campus are actively trying to improve their membership right now, and worrying about fostering a new chapter on campus would stretch everyone too thin. perhaps in a few years if the community is properly and effectively restructured...

too many rules!

[KillarneyRose]

Libby, I wanna hear about the T shirt; PM me!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Libby, I wanna hear about the T shirt; PM me!

Me, too! I just cleaned out my inbox!