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Old 04-12-2005, 03:42 PM
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What RUGreek wrote still stands.

You say Jews don't "accept Mormonism as truth...thus why this is a non-issue to [you]."

He says You don't accept necrophiliacs thus a necrophiliac having sex with your dead body is a non-issue to others.

-Rudey
--By the way this is an issue for Jews regarding Mormon acts...not about you.

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
By "seeing this from a non-religious perspective," I meant that I am not a religious person.

The Mormons are NOT actually converting these people. In order to convert to Mormonism, there are two steps: you need to actively make a choice to accept it, and you need to be baptized. Mormons believe that the first step -- choosing to become Mormon -- can be done after death, when a person is in heaven. They believe that baptism can only occur on earth, either by real baptism or by proxy. Thus conversion is not the issue here -- Mormons just feel that, by baptizing this people, they are preparing them for the act of conversion. Baptism itself is not conversion, however.

In response to ASUADPi -- Mormons believe that their view of heaven is the only correct one. They assume that, even if you were another religious faith on earth and you were devoted enough to die for that faith -- if you get to heaven and you were wrong and God really is Mormon, you'd convert.


Proxy baptisms are recorded as proxy baptisms, not as actual baptisms.

RUGreek -- did you even read this thread? Baptism is different from conversion. There's no way this practice could send anybody to hell (or heaven) by itself. Conversion cannot take place without the person (or whatever they are after death) does not accept Mormonism as truth. Which, uh, if they're Jewish, they probably won't. Thus why this is a non-issue to me.
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