Question about Asian GLOs

[L.O.C.K.]

Yea, so back on topic. Where do people think AGLOs will head? More towards NPC/NIC or NPHC style?

[Taualumna]

Personally, I'm worried that the new influx of multi-cultural and ethnic GLOs may take AWAY membership from NPC/NIC groups in campuses where membership is already pretty diverse.

I know it's not really any of my beeswax, but I'm also worried that years down the road, Asians (for example) who rush HWGLOs will be seen as white-washed and not "loyal" to their cultures the same way many African Americans are today.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by L.O.C.K.
Yea, so back on topic. Where do people think AGLOs will head? More towards NPC/NIC or NPHC style?

AGLOs are great. The orgs are one of the reasons that Greek life has increased if you ask me since they took guys and girls who most likely wouldn't have gone Greek, and provided that venue for them.

I'm a betting man and I'd bet within 20 years as your groups get more structured, you will look more like NPC/NIC orgs. That's my opinion and some may not agree, but I put it out there.

-Rudey

[starang21]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Personally, I'm worried that the new influx of multi-cultural and ethnic GLOs may take AWAY membership from NPC/NIC groups in campuses where membership is already pretty diverse.

I know it's not really any of my beeswax, but I'm also worried that years down the road, Asians (for example) who rush HWGLOs will be seen as white-washed and not "loyal" to their cultures the same way many African Americans are today.

why? so you think that everyone should just join predominatly white organizations? interesting view point.......

and as for your second statement....many asians are already seen as that. and it has nothing to do with affiliation.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Rudey
I'm a betting man and I'd bet within 20 years as your groups get more structured, you will look more like NPC/NIC orgs.

It is my understanding that currently, there is not a National Asian GLO umbrella organization. As such, and to piggyback on Rudy's comment, until there is some sort of national AGLO umbrella organization, AGLO fraternities may be more likely to join the NIC. If they are inclined to join such an organization.

Frankly, the NIC is a more diverse umbrella organization. The NIC currently encompasses various types or interest based service and social organizations. This list includes, but certainly is not limited to: Academic (Agriculture, Architecture, Engineering, and the Sciences), Asian, Black, Latino, and Religious (Catholic, Jewish, and Lutheran). I'm sure I may have left off other interest based organizations. Also, the NIC has member organizations that have fewer than ten chapters to organizations with over 200 chapters. Some might even be considered Regional based in that they are currently only found in one geographical area.

Of course, AGLOs may choose to form their own national organization. Or perhaps hold duel membership and join more than one umbrella organization. Similar to Iota Theta Phi (NPHC) and Sigma Lambda Beta (NAFLO).

[Rudey]

Do you know why anyone would want to join both?

-Rudey

Originally posted by TSteven
It is my understanding that currently, there is not a National Asian GLO umbrella organization. As such, and to piggyback on Rudy's comment, until there is some sort of national AGLO umbrella organization, AGLO fraternities may be more likely to join the NIC. If they are inclined to join such an organization.

Frankly, the NIC is a more diverse umbrella organization. The NIC currently encompasses various types or interest based service and social organizations. This list includes, but certainly is not limited to: Academic (Agriculture, Architecture, Engineering, and the Sciences), Asian, Black, Latino, and Religious (Catholic, Jewish, and Lutheran). I'm sure I may have left off other interest based organizations. Also, the NIC has member organizations that have fewer than ten chapters to organizations with over 200 chapters. Some might even be considered Regional based in that they are currently only found in one geographical area.

Of course, AGLOs may choose to form their own national organization. Or perhaps hold duel membership and join more than one umbrella organization. Similar to Iota Theta Phi (NPHC) and Sigma Lambda Beta (NAFLO).

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Rudey
Do you know why anyone would want to join both?

-Rudey

I know it isn't good to answer a question with a question, but I will.

Why not? Why not be a member of two - or more - umbrella organizations if doing so fits your organization's need. And as to why (the need) an organization may want to do so, that would depend on the particular organization.

Now with respect to AGLOs, my speculation would simply be that currently, there is no specific AGLO umbrella organization. Joining an already established umbrella organization - that meets their needs - may advance their organization's goals/mission etc.

And certainly down the line, if an AGLO specific umbrella organization were to form, they might decide to join it as well.

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally posted by Rudey
AGLOs are great. The orgs are one of the reasons that Greek life has increased if you ask me since they took guys and girls who most likely wouldn't have gone Greek, and provided that venue for them.

-Rudey

I totally agree. I was one of those girls. I had always said that I would never join a sorority. Then one day, while I was waiting in line for coffee, this girl starts chatting me up and she invited me to her sorority's info session. She ended up becoming my big sis. The way I was at the time, I was very shy. I was not the type of person to go meet sorority members and educate myself about sororities. I was not the type of person that would go and sign up for formal recruitment. I held a lot of stereotypes about sorority girls, because I didn't know any. All it took was meeting one nice sorority girl for me to change my mind. If no one had approached me first and started talking to me, I would have never gone Greek. And almost every single girl in my chapter says the same thing. So to Taualumna, I don't believe that AGLO's or other cultural/ethnic-based GLO's are taking away from the diversity of NIC and NPC organizations.

From what I've seen, the Asian girls that come into college knowing that they want to join a sorority will go through NPC recruitment. We then have to educate and recruit from the pool of girls that have misconceptions about sororities or do not know about sororities at all. The reason I chose my sorority is because they actively recruited me. I felt like they wanted me and that they wanted to make a good impression on me. At the time, my beliefs on NPC sororites was that I would have to do all the work. I would be the one that would have to go sign up for recruitment. I would be the one that would have to try to impress the sorority members. It just felt like the NPC sororities didn't care and weren't working to get girls to sign up for recruitment, like an attitude of "well, if they really want to be an XYZ, they'll go find out about recruitment and they'll come find us.....we don't need to educate anyone about XYZ until they sign up for recruitment and come to our events......we don't need to try to get girls to sign up for recruitment because we already get so many girls and we don't need to make any actual effort". This was all before I learned that NPC has VERY strict rules about how the recruitment process is carried out. Now that I know a little bit more about it, I really like how the NPC system works to combat unfair/shady behavior between organizations (such as stealing another organization's PNM's or interfering with PNM's to keep them from going to another house).

[WhirlwindTNX]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Personally, I'm worried that the new influx of multi-cultural and ethnic GLOs may take AWAY membership from NPC/NIC groups in campuses where membership is already pretty diverse.

Something about this rubs me the wrong way. How are other GLOs taking away membership? Don't be worried about that, be worried about if you are making ALL people feel welcomed because then you won't have to think about anyone taking any of your "diversity" away.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
Something about this rubs me the wrong way. How are other GLOs taking away membership? Don't be worried about that, be worried about if you are making ALL people feel welcomed because then you won't have to think about anyone taking any of your "diversity" away.

I co-sign with WhirlwindTNX.

I think many of us (non-NPC women) never had any intentions of joining the NPC in the first place, so I don't see how this is taking away from their potential membership pool. I think many of us would just choose to stay independent. That's what I was going to do. It was either my sorority of choice, or no sorority at all.

[Jill1228]

Hijack!
I might be married too, but I might have to fight you for Jet Li! He is hella FOINE
/end hijack

I am enjoying this thread. Very informative

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
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[Private I]

Taualumna, you also have the opposite of your statement happen as well-there are a lot of white people that join minority-based/multicultural org's (myself as an example), so like my Soror was saying-people will join whatever organization they want to join and whatever appeals to them, one cannot be upset about their personal preferences...

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
Something about this rubs me the wrong way. How are other GLOs taking away membership? Don't be worried about that, be worried about if you are making ALL people feel welcomed because then you won't have to think about anyone taking any of your "diversity" away.

OK, I'm trying to be as sensitive as I can, since it's kind of a delicate issue. Some girls arrive on campus knowing they want to be Greek, but aren't sure which kind of GLO to join. If NPCs are the only ones on campus, then of course, they'll join NPC, but would opt for an Asian/Latin/NPHC/Multicultural GLO if it is available to them. Most people who join these GLOs (with the possible exception of a multicultural GLO) are members of minority ethnic groups. That's why diversity might be taken away from NPCs.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by Jill1228
Hijack!
I might be married too, but I might have to fight you for Jet Li! He is hella FOINE
/end hijack

Den we's gonna havta fight... Cuz Jet Li lookeded real fione in that french film...

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally posted by Taualumna
If NPCs are the only ones on campus, then of course, they'll join NPC,

I strongly disagree. There were no sororities for Latina women on my campus, so we started a chapter of one. We didn't just go and join NPC because it was the only game in town. I think many women out there are not going to just join NPC "by default." Are those the type of women you would want in your sorority in the first place, or would you rather have women who really want to be in your NPC organization, given all the choices they might have on campus?