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All i know is that at my school, all 5 of our fraternities are local, and all 5 of our fraternities haze, but we have dry pledging, our oldest is about 85 years old and our youngest is 70 years old, we havent ever killed anyone and since i've been around (5 years) we havent had anyone go to the hospital as the result of a hazing or pledging incident. This all goes back to the old arguement about constructive pledging that teaches pledges what they should know and helps them learn to cope with certain situations or nonsencsical hazing that has no purpose other then to entertain the actives and alums. A pledge running and doing push ups for hours has no purpose, where as putting the pledge in a stressfull situation similar to ones first day in bootcamp where you learn to focus on what supposed to do and deal with all the chaos going on around you which is life are two completley different things.
I think its funny how the fraternity here that had the biggest pledge class only lost one, we had the second largest and offer the most rigirous program here and didnt lose any, the next largest also has a rigirous program and didnt lose any, the next largest lost one but that was before thier program even began, not to mentiont that thier program lasts 2 weeks longer then any other one here. I think that the blanket statement that all hazing is bad is ridiculas especially considering some of the things that are classified as hazing by some people. Maybe some of the larger schools could get rid of fraternities, ours couldnt. 80% of all donations to my college come from fraternity and sorority alumni, and 70% of that 80% is from fraternity alumni.
bleh sorry for ranting but i just get all upset when i see people threatening any fraternity because a few people don't know how to be constructive with the way they do things. It doesn't matter how hard it is, if it is safe, constructive, you make sure they pledge understands whats going on or what happened, and the pledge is doing it for the right reasons they'll finish and they'll get more out of it then anyone can put into it.
oh and i forgot to mention our 5 local sororities, they haze worse then the guys do in some cases
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