Equal opportunity racism at UVa

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Rudey
Fricking banjo playing, red truck driving, white sheet wearing, cross burning, tobacco chewing bigots

Don't forget "sister marryin'" and "non passport owning."

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Don't forget "sister marryin'" and "non passport owning."

You also forgot to mention Jeff Foxworthy & NASCAR worshipping!
GIT R DONE!
I'll just sit back & enjoy the ride while I suck down a bottle of Corona & my 8 kids from 6 different men run around waiting for the mailman to bring my welfare check & food stamps.

[mrblonde]

Yes, as we all know, racism is exclusively southern.

Ever been to Boston?

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
You also forgot to mention Jeff Foxworthy & NASCAR worshipping!
GIT R DONE!
I'll just sit back & enjoy the ride while I suck down a bottle of Corona & my 8 kids from 6 different men run around waiting for the mailman to bring my welfare check & food stamps.

6 kids from 8 different men and once again barefoot and pregnant in front of the trailer house

[RACooper]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Sorry to break this to you, but its impossible for a minority group to be racist against the majority group, based upon the definition of racism. Racism is a system of oppression and discrimination against a minority group by the majority. Last time I checked, African Americans weren't the minority.

Okay where does it say that racism can only be commited by an ethnic majority?

The defeinition in Anthropolgy, Sociology, and in the dictiontary make no mention of a social power play as a factor of racism...

Racism
rac·ism
1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2. racial prejudice or discrimination

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by RACooper
Okay where does it say that racism can only be commited by an ethnic majority?

The defeinition in Anthropolgy, Sociology, and in the dictiontary make no mention of a social power play as a factor of racism...

Racism
rac·ism
1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2. racial prejudice or discrimination

Sorry honey, but I'm not talking about the average Joe definition, cause we all know that the average American is not up to speed...

People who devote their lives to studying race in America have concluded that racism is more than just being prejudice or discriminatory, its a systematic application of these practices by a majority onto a minority. If you don't like that definition, you don't have to use it. But perhaps my definition of racism is a bit different than yours, seeing as I'm a minority who has experienced this behavior on a firsthand basis...

But what the hell do I know? I'm only a college grad...

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
The historical context is simply not the same. Blackface has a history. "Whiteface" just doesn't. They're not comparable.

historical context has nothing to do with it

[Lovely_gurl]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
historical context has nothing to do with it

Herein lies the problem. To state that "historical context has nothing to do with it" is to COMPLETELY miss the point of why the act is offensive to minority groups to begin with. You simply cannot instruct people to disregard the context of their emotional connection to this issue. For members of a minority group with a history of oppressioin, it simply cannot be done.

And YOU may think the costume has "nothing to do with" the historical context, but the deep-rooted emotional reaction to the costume has EVERYTHING to do with history.

[hoosier]

Originally posted by jubilance1922

People who devote their lives to studying race in America have concluded that racism is more than just being prejudice or discriminatory, its a systematic application of these practices by a majority onto a minority.

These are the same people devoted to making African-Americans into perpetual "Victims".

People who think of themselves as Victims are likely to be failures, seeking power to make the government give them special favors, such as welfare, welfare housing, welfare scholarships, and just plain money.

And these people, and their allies, seek to empower Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton (and give speeches every Sun. in A-A churches), while condemning any Christians who vote for George W. bush.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Sorry honey, but I'm not talking about the average Joe definition, cause we all know that the average American is not up to speed...

People who devote their lives to studying race in America have concluded that racism is more than just being prejudice or discriminatory, its a systematic application of these practices by a majority onto a minority. If you don't like that definition, you don't have to use it. But perhaps my definition of racism is a bit different than yours, seeing as I'm a minority who has experienced this behavior on a firsthand basis...

But what the hell do I know? I'm only a college grad...

Maybe I see things differently because, maybe because there isn't the same level of historical weight to racism up here...

The thing is I don't see racism as something that only happens to minorities... just because I have seen people suffer from racism in contexts other than a sociey power structure... for example if I was to believe that "blacks" are better basketball players strictly because of "race" then that would be a racist belief... the same would be true if my friend Mat held the same belief (he being "black") then he would also be holding to a racist belief. Both of us would be holding to a belief that a "race" is superior to another... which by definition is "racist" (or at least the way I've always been taught).

[Rudey]

Why are people trying to educate the racists?

-Rudey

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
historical context has nothing to do with it

How?

You can't divorce something from its historical context. It's there whether or not you choose to acknowledge it.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
Why are people trying to educate the racists?

-Rudey

Because education is the light that dispells the darkness of ignorance....

[Rudey]

Originally posted by RACooper
Because education is the light that dispells the darkness of ignorance....

Do you see the light?

-Rudey

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Sorry to break this to you, but its impossible for a minority group to be racist against the majority group, based upon the definition of racism. Racism is a system of oppression and discrimination against a minority group by the majority. Last time I checked, African Americans weren't the minority.

The fact remains that people want to whine and cry when they are held accountable for their actions. Its one thing to mock an entire group of people, especially when that behavior has deep roots in this country, and its something else to have a Halloween costume that doesn't have anything to do about anything.

Personally, I think it was tacky and bad taste for him to decide to be "white" for Halloween. But racism? Nope, and if you don't like it, you can go cry a river for all I care.

First, to say that it is impossible for a minority group to be racist towards a majority group is impossible is the biggest load of CRAP i've ever heard. I went to a school that was 97% Hispanic and EVERY day racist remarks were made towards me. I thought I was too good for them because my dad had a nice car. I better not look at them that way because I'd get my gringo ass kicked. I was a stupid cracker and racist because I didn't cry when Selina died. WHATEVER.
I agree that this incident alone may not have been racism. THe point is that it's not any different what he did and what the white guys did. And YES A MINORITY CAN BE RACIST TOWARDS A NON MINORITY.