Bush Wins

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by Rollergirl2001
I think that you better watch what you say about moving to Canada if there is a draft on this forum. I was bashed for saying that.

Oh, I apologize for saying that I would move to Canada if there was a draft. I was being insensitive. I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

You don't have anything to apologize for! If you're receiving any flack for saying such a thing it isn't necessarily because of you per se, but because of other people who have made similar statements but didn't back them up when the time came.

One who springs quickly to mind is actor Alec Baldwin who insisted he would move out of the US if the Republicans took the White House in 2000. He is still here. In all the years I've been eligible to vote, I've heard similar claims from people and every single one of them is also still here! Seems that when push came to shove, the comfort and benefits to be reaped by staying in the US overwhelmed their desire to make a bold statement.

So if you're getting any grief for your comment, I think it's just because people are reading it as empty, rhetorical grandstanding. Just ignore them; you and you alone can attest to the veracity of your statement.

[texas*princess]

Stop mad cowboy disease

[Virtuous Woman]

<---------------------------My take on the election. I did my part, Bush never had a chance in New York.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by omegamcgee
Yep Bush wins again. Although I'm not quite sure how he pulled that off (I've heard rumors about the republicans putting up signs in hispanic areas that said election day was november 3rd, but that's just what I've heard), he did. I don't support him, and I'll move to Canada if there is a draft, but it's over and done with. Now all we can do is handle the repurcussions of this conservative, evangelical, bigot and his administration. Good luck to everyone, and here's to four more years...of HORROR!

In most of the nation, the Hispanic demographics strongly lean republican, so let's lay off the urban myths.

[FAB*SpiceySpice]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Michael Moore has been strangely silent, hasn't he? He is the only Kerry supporter I would really enjoy saying "nah nah nah" to. Well, him and that record producer guy with the terrible overbite who used to date JLo. He annoyed me with his dumb "vote or die" logo.

LOL are you talking about P Diddy?

I agree, that vote or die crap was pretty STUPID.

[ISUKappa]

In order for this country to come together, there are going to have to be concessions on both sides. If you say Bush has to earn your respect, you also have to be willing to actively listen to what he has to say, even if you don't agree with it.

ETA: That doesn't mean you need to alter your beliefs, that doesn't mean you have to stop fighting for what you're passionate about--you should never stop doing that. But an attitude of "my way or no way" isn't going to help anybody.

I thought this was neat

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Rollergirl2001
I think that you better watch what you say about moving to Canada if there is a draft on this forum. I was bashed for saying that.

Oh, I apologize for saying that I would move to Canada if there was a draft. I was being insensitive. I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

Anyway, to cash78mere and ASUADPi, I feel you too. I was saying God help us after Bush won. I'll be fine for the next four years. I'll just survive it just like other anti-Bush people.

Since you brought up the draft, let's remember it was a Democrat from New York that introduced it this year, it was 2 Democrats that voted for it, and every Republican voted against it.

-Rudey

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by Rudey
Since you brought up the draft, let's remember it was a Democrat from New York that introduced it this year, it was 2 Democrats that voted for it, and every Republican voted against it.

-Rudey

With the members of the armed forces (from every account I've heard) saying that they would've considered resigning had Kerry been elected, but they support Bush, I don't quite understand the concern.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Michael Moore has been strangely silent, hasn't he? He is the only Kerry supporter I would really enjoy saying "nah nah nah" to. Well, him and that record producer guy with the terrible overbite who used to date JLo. He annoyed me with his dumb "vote or die" logo.

Cosign!!!


So.... are Alec Baldwin and Barbra Streistand still around?

[honeychile]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
I thought this was neat

Even more interesting, compare it to that of 2000!

(Which of course I have on paper but not online! Drat!)

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by ISUKappa
In order for this country to come together, there are going to have to be concessions on both sides. If you say Bush has to earn your respect, you also have to be willing to actively listen to what he has to say, even if you don't agree with it.

ETA: That doesn't mean you need to alter your beliefs, that doesn't mean you have to stop fighting for what you're passionate about--you should never stop doing that. But an attitude of "my way or no way" isn't going to help anybody.

Right.

But we heard this stuff about "Okay, we'll work on uniting the nation" after the 2000 election too. How long did that last? According to Dick Cheney, "We wait about thirty seconds before we decided not to change our plan for the country because of the way the election turned out." The only time this country has been particularly united over the past four years was just post 9/11, and if we have to count on a terrorist attack to bring us together again -- well, clearly that's not what any of us are hoping for. Obviously this election was not as drama-full as the last, but I think the left is even more hesitant to trust Bush this time around since he has much more power to do what he wants now that he's not up for reelection. I honestly don't think he's going to make much of an effort to pander to anybody on the opposite side of the spectrum.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
According to Dick Cheney, "We wait about thirty seconds before we decided not to change our plan for the country because of the way the election turned out."

interesting - cite?

Originally posted by sugar and spice
The only time this country has been particularly united over the past four years was just post 9/11, and if we have to count on a terrorist attack to bring us together again -- well, clearly that's not what any of us are hoping for. Obviously this election was not as drama-full as the last, but I think the left is even more hesitant to trust Bush this time around since he has much more power to do what he wants now that he's not up for reelection. I honestly don't think he's going to make much of an effort to pander to anybody on the opposite side of the spectrum.

OK - interesting speculation, but it's just that. Time will tell.

[PhiPsiRuss]

The concern? Its probably that they remember Clinton.

Originally posted by preciousjeni
With the members of the armed forces (from every account I've heard) saying that they would've considered resigning had Kerry been elected, but they support Bush, I don't quite understand the concern.

[Nubian]

Originally posted by Rudey
Kerry voted for the war in Iraq. Edwards voted for the war in Iraq.

When asked if knowing there were no WMD in Iraq would he still have voted to go to war in Iraq, Kerry said yes.

Never did Kerry say he was just going to pull the soldiers out of Iraq.

One man does not control everything.

-Rudey

While Kerry and Edwards may have voted in favor of the war...Bush started the war. A baseless war where my colleagues are fighting and dying everyday. Yet when we (the military) had the chance to go to Haiti and provide some real aid to people who needed it, we didn't go...maybe they didn't have enough oil for our President. Maybe it wasn't in accordance with his Daddy's agenda...Either way, I do agree that we all have an opinion and mine is that any man who would sacfrice loss of life, wreck the economy, and place such fear of terrorism in the average American that he skates through another election does not deserve to run a country. 3 yrs after 9/11, we still have not located Osama, the person mainly responsible, but people are saying this man (Bush) has kept us safe!?! How?! If you had been raped or assaulted and the police still hadn't caught the culprit 3 yrs later, would you applaude them for keeping you safe? I respect your opinion and that of all Republicans, but I reserve my right to dislike Bush regardless of the fact that he is our President...I don't do blind loyalty.
Asking me to like Bush is like asking you to like.... Clinton.