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Old 04-06-2001, 03:03 PM
Jeff OTMG Jeff OTMG is offline
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I am so happy to see such a spirited dicussion!! To bad more aren't joining in, but at least they are reading.

I will use this opportunity to respond and to add some references that I mistakenly left out. I do not expect anyone to accept what I say as true that is not a logical derivation or supported by a reference.

Regarding the reference of a wolf with a gun and a flock of unarmed sheep that was used against me when I used it to explain the difference in a Democracy and a Republic, that is actually the example of a dictatorship.

I would say that he would get his gun the same place that he would get his drugs. Cocaine is not produced here, but there does not seem to be much of a shortage and there sure doesn't seem to be a shortage of illegal guns in England since their complete ban a few years ago, reference the link to the story about why bobbies carry guns above. Easier and much more effective if the killer would just poison everyone rather than trying to shoot them all. Shooting takes skill, poisoning doesn't.

I mentioned a court decision where police were not liable for not protecting the individual, but failed to give references:
Link to the latest occurrance in Boston: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/loc...ob04052001.htm
Court ruling:
“. . . a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.”
--Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)

I also left out references to the reports debunking Kellerman I find conflicting dates of 1986 and 1988, not 1986 as I posted above. http://www.reason.com/9704/fe.cdc.html http://i2i.org/SuptDocs/Crime/43_to_1_fallacy.htm http://users.erols.com/dsmjd/rkba/kellerman.htm

For a bibliography on both sides of the gun control issue: http://www.pitt.edu/~upjecon/BERGER/...trol1_bib.html
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