WTH is "whitewashed"?

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by ktsnake

Interesting how I came to be here, but not necessarily all that relevant to my current situation.

You can say that, but I really can't.

Like I said before, some get it while others don't. I won't lose any sleep over this one.

[Rudey]

There is a difference between integration and assimiliation. Many of us remember where we came from. For us it's a shame to see someone who has no connection to their past. These people don't want to culturally fit in but would give an arm and a leg to change any physical semblance if they had to.

-Rudey

[starang21]

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
...so a 4th generation Latin-American needs to respect their culture.... isnt their culture American culture since their family has been here 100 years? Sounds more like "whitewashed" is a reason to discriminate against someone for assimilating into the only culture they've known rather than a culture from another time and place.

I guess I'm "whitewashed" since I dont wear liederhosen and yodel on mountaintops...

their culture is hispanic american culture which is a subculture of american culture. regardless of whether or not they're 4th generation of an immigrant.....who is to say that they don't recognize their roots? history doesn't start with america.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by starang21
you're talking about stereotypes and tangible things. i'm talking about nuances of your culture that you're ignoring or not respecting because you want acceptance from whites. shit, i don't know my own language, does that mean i don't understand filipino culture? no. culture goes deeper than having a nice job or joining a country club.

But culture evolves. Years ago, a Chinese Canadian wedding reception would consist of a very Chinese banquet at a restaurant. There was no dancing, throwing of the bouquet or garter. Everything, other than the bride's white dress was, well, Chinese (there were the usual toasts and jokes though). I have been to a few Chinese Canadian weddings as of late, and the weddings are now much more westernized, with a DJ, dancing, bouquet and garter throwing, etc, whether the reception is in a Chinese restaurant in one of the 5 or so Chinatowns or western style. Usually, the three dress changes the bride has and the tea ceremony (held between the ceremony and the reception) remain.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Taualumna
But culture evolves. Years ago, a Chinese Canadian wedding reception would consist of a very Chinese banquet at a restaurant. There was no dancing, throwing of the bouquet or garter. Everything, other than the bride's white dress was, well, Chinese (there were the usual toasts and jokes though). I have been to a few Chinese Canadian weddings as of late, and the weddings are now much more westernized, with a DJ, dancing, bouquet and garter throwing, etc, whether the reception is in a Chinese restaurant in one of the 5 or so Chinatowns or western style. Usually, the three dress changes the bride has and the tea ceremony (held between the ceremony and the reception) remain.

culture does evolve, and not all of it is lost. you're speaking specific things that constitue culture but do not define culture. i'm sure there are other nuances of chinese outside of a wedding, a job, or a country club. regardless of what kind of wedding you want, one can still respect their heritage. it's a mindset and a lifestyle, not just that in which you speak of.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by starang21
culture does evolve, and not all of it is lost. you're speaking specific things that constitue culture but do not define culture. i'm sure there are other nuances of chinese outside of a wedding, a job, or a country club. regardless of what kind of wedding you want, one can still respect their heritage. it's a mindset and a lifestyle, not just that in which you speak of.

Then what defines "culture"? I attend a predominantly white church. I don't like bubble tea or HK movies. Does that make me a sell out? My cousin dates black men and doesn't like bubble tea or HK movies either. Does that make her a sell out?

[starang21]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Then what defines "culture"? I attend a predominantly white church. I don't like bubble tea or HK movies. Does that make me a sell out? My cousin dates black men and doesn't like bubble tea or HK movies either. Does that make her a sell out?

no, not really. nuances in your culture are things that you really can't explain to someone who doesn't experience it. your heritage and culture are thigns that are not easily defined..because there are so many minor things that contribute to them. there isn't a hard definition for it.

my girlfriend isn't filipino and i don't think i've sold out anything. that doesn't make me less proud to be one either. i'm sure there are plenty of chinese in china who don't like bubble tea. it's a mindset, as i've tried to illustrate.

[DeltaSigStan]

To add: Almost 80% of the same Filipinos who called me "white washed" have no idea of the real history of the Philippines. They hear Jose Rizal and that we eventually got independence, but they don't know the real story of our Filipino ancestors vs. Spain and later the United States.

So, I really have no idea where to base their statement other than the guess that anything not "Asian" to them is "white".

[starang21]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
To add: Almost 80% of the same Filipinos who called me "white washed" have no idea of the real history of the Philippines. They hear Jose Rizal and that we eventually got independence, but they don't know the real story of our Filipino ancestors vs. Spain and later the United States.

So, I really have no idea where to base their statement other than the guess that anything not "Asian" to them is "white".

noli me tangere



el filibusterismo (sp)

[DeltaSigStan]

Our Bayani wrote many great works.....

[starang21]

punkass flips.

[DeltaSigStan]

Dem Damn Fobs.....haha

[starang21]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Dem Damn Fobs.....haha

putanginamo.

Originally posted by starang21
putanginamo.

LMFAO.

I need to go get me some bibingka now.