Bush's snub of the NAACP proves just how petty he really is.

[AXEAM]

I believe all those so called stats are slanted, just think about those behind that web site have an agenda that they're pushing.
I also believe that Icon does to, I'm not supporting abortions b/c it is murder but I believe that sometimes it can be neccesary in cases of rape, sexual abuse of a minor child and other cases. I also believe that murder is murder be it abortion or an unjust war.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by AXEAM
I believe all those so called stats are slanted.

I knew you would LOL! We always tend to believe stats are biased or slanted when we don't agree with them! But it aint that much slanting in the world bruh

[AXEAM]

No ma'am I don't disagree w/ stats that I may personally be @ odds with b/c I don't like them, but those above stats are filled w/bias. Also Iconoclastic's mindset is so warped that this person considers Thurgood Marshall to be a crony which speaks volumes.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by AXEAM
No ma'am I don't disagree w/ stats that I may personally be @ odds with b/c I don't like them, but those above stats are filled w/bias. Also Iconoclastic's mindset is so warped that this person considers Thurgood Marshall to be a crony which speaks volumes.

AXEAM,

Some "neutral" sites that contain stats that mirror those on saveus.org can be found on the CDC's website (although the CDC does admit that its method of tracking abortions is flawed) or the US Dept. of Health and the Census Bureau. The stats regarding the black community are fairly interesting. It is hard to believe, but once I dug deeper, it was a wake up call that we (meaning you and me) have got to do something.

No longer can we wait on a collective "group", "party", or organization to do it. Maybe that's how we (our community) got in this situation in the first place....waiting on someone else to do something.

Regarding the cost of abortions.....

My church has an active anti-abortion ministry because in our city, there is a clinic here that performs all types of abortions (from early pregnancy all the way up to late term). Depending upon WHEN you get one, the price does range from about $400 (early pregancy) to $800-$1,000 (for later term or partial birth abortions). Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[AXEAM]

When I say these stats are slanted I mean that most stats dealing w/ Black America are pooled from the worst lowest subjects then projected to look worst then they actually are. Follow me on this one if you were to pick only the worst rotten apples off of a tree then (x) that amount by a ratio of all the apples on that tree your findings would be flawed. When studies are done on Black Americans the working class, middle and upperclass are often exclued, by using using the lower socio-economic group the results will not represent all of Black America but will cast the whole of Black America under a somewhat negative light.

[AXEAM]

Bush's speech before the Urban League reminded me of an old James Brown song entitled"TALKING LOUD BUT SAYING NOTHING."

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by AXEAM
Bush's speech before the Urban League reminded me of an old James Brown song entitled"TALKING LOUD BUT SAYING NOTHING."

Thats funny...that song reminds me of the Democratic Party

[AXEAM]

That's a good one.... but the song that the American people will sing to Bush is an old song by the Who entitled "WE WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN"

[Shortfuse]

What are the Republicans doing for African-Americans. And don't give me nonsense about what they "said" I mean what was actually done and put us in the poor house isn't one of them.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
You can tell when something comes from the heart, and when it is mindless, thoughtless, and uncreative. The statistics could be as wrong as two left feet. The laws on abortion are definitely wrong as two left feet as is the foundation of the law. I am not saying Marshall is my crony. He's just a Black man(AN ALPHA) who happened to vote to bring abortion into LEGAL existence, and look who is on here blowing his trumpet.

Now for the education! Why have the worst that society has to offer become embedded so deeply in the Black community. Because we have followed every move of the snake charmer without ever striking back or escaping to freedom. We just go back in our basket into the darkness, just as dumb and ignorant as before. Abortion was not some random after thought. It was a carefully planned attack on Black people to eliminate them. As the founder of Planned Parenthood basically stated, abortion is to get rid of the mongrel races, the niggers, jews, and any other undesirable race. In other words, she was a eugenicist. How did she say it would be accomplished in the Black community? By using the Clergy and the well to do Blacks (i.e. the real Uncle Tom's of our community.) Has she succeeded according to plan? YES! The same TOM'S then are here today.

Next is Alcohol Consumption. Name one commercial with Schlitz Malt Liquor, Colt 45, Wild Irish Rose Wine, MD 20/20, Thunderbird, etc. that has one WHITE person in it? If you knew how they processed some of these, you would be apologizing to you liver right now, because it's too late for your brain. Ye! We bought in to the cheap stuff also. Like blind servants, we went a drinking this cheap stuff.

Quick note: Kerry said NOTHING to the Black community in his speech. We are token to him. The studies already tell him he's got us. But where do you see him reaching out? Que Pasa? Como esta?

Next post- Education and Entitlements!!!!

Now for the education! Why have the worst that society has to offer become embedded so deeply in the Black community. Because we have followed every move of the snake charmer without ever striking back or escaping to freedom. We just go back in our basket into the darkness, just as dumb and ignorant as before. Abortion was not some random after thought. It was a carefully planned attack on Black people to eliminate them. As the founder of Planned Parenthood basically stated, abortion is to get rid of the mongrel races, the niggers, jews, and any other undesirable race.

Sorry it's taken me so long to get into this but....

Abortion isn't just a black problem. Women of ALL racist have been having abortion for THOUSANDS of years. You can't say it's a planned attack on the black community because mostly it's done in private. You can't look at a woman and tell she's had an abortion or can correctly track down the stats of every abortion (yes there are still THOUSANDS of Illegal ones) to back this claim up.

Second, your first part of this comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with the second part. Nothign at all.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
Sorry it's taken me so long to get into this but....

Abortion isn't just a black problem. Women of ALL racist have been having abortion for THOUSANDS of years. You can't say it's a planned attack on the black community because mostly it's done in private. You can't look at a woman and tell she's had an abortion or can correctly track down the stats of every abortion (yes there are still THOUSANDS of Illegal ones) to back this claim up.

Second, your first part of this comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with the second part. Nothign at all.

Did you really listen to what Iconoclastic posted or are you just trying to poke holes into his argument? You really didn't factually dispute anything he said. Can you?? OF course abortion isn't just a black problem...where did you see that he implied that? But it is affecting our community in disproportionate numbers...just as HIV/AIDS isn't a black problem...but its wreaking havoc in our community.

[AXEAM]

First of all let me say what's up to my man Shortfuse glad to see you made it over on this site. Now Icon is always blowing smoke and claiming everything about Black America is the worst makes me wonder, abortions have been performed in other communities for a long time difference is they will go to a private doctor and it's not reported. Icon should know this the situation is the same w/ aids come on man do some research I saw no lesson in your post just more uniformed drivel, you know the Pharisees and the Sadducees considered themselves to be true men of God also.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by AXEAM
, you know the Pharisees and the Sadducees considered themselves to be true men of God also.

Lawd no you didn't bruh LOL

[Honeykiss1974]

There is a thread on here about the founding of Planned Parenthood, FEMA, and other agencies and social epidemics that were created to destroy the Black man. Icon is saying the EXACT same thing as stated in that thread (that others were so quick to agree with) but yet, its now considered nonsense??

Over the course of the day I will search for that thread and post a link.

As I have said before, I guess it all depends on WHO is delivering the message. **shrug** Oh wait! It does, because then there wouldn't be such an uproar of Bill Cosby either.

[AXEAM]

Never just let your mind be for rent always do some research.