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Old 07-22-2004, 02:08 PM
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Thanks CT4 for the scriptures, i truly appreciate it.

However I am still confused because....

In Levitivus 19:19 when it says "Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." or in Levitucus 11 it says that we shouldnt mix meat and dairy products. (I know that the Orthodox Jews still believe this)

But in our society today we do both of those things mentioned so are we sinning? We eat cheeseburges and wear cotton blend clothing so is this wrong? Again how much do we take/follow from the Old Testament? Only things that were repeated in the New Testament? Or all of them? Also were these the laws for the Jews or for all people? That is what i am confused about

Again i do appreciate everyone responses and im just getting information im not trying to start a debate or discredits anyones answers. I just watned to get some dialouge because we can all learn from each other.
edited to state..this is a quick synopsis of a 10 week intensive course...I can't emphasize enough the importance of attending a biblicly based church that encourages bible study-if your church doesn't offer any please look for one that does. I was raised in church but did not know the intricacies of the Bible until I started reading for myself as an adult.

This is what I've learned and gathered from classes at my church ..

The old testament is a written work of the old covenant - God gave man rules and regulations to follow - throughout the old testament you see over and over again how man displeased and disobeyed God & through His infinite love He didn't want to destroy us - so He created a new way for man to be forgiven and to follow Him (the sacrifice of His son) - through the New Testament & the New covenant we are no longer required to follow all the rules and regulations to receive His blessings...so NO you do not have to follow the rules as listed out in Leviticus.

Most people who practice the Jewish faith still practice these rules and regulations listed in the Old Testament (including Rosh Hashana, Passover etc) because they do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and are still waiting for Him to come. Actually what Jews use as their holy books do not contain all the books of we call the Old Testament - they refer only to the first five books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,Numbers,Dueteronomy). Some say Jesus was a prophet others say a charlatan, however there are now some Jews (Jews for Jesus) who say that Jesus was the Mesiah although I haven't had the opportunity to speak or research to see how they reconcile the different practices.

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Old 07-22-2004, 02:15 PM
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I just wanted to recommend a VERY good bible for further reference on any of the scriptures or questions presented here.

The Life Application Study Bible
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:18 PM
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Wow this is good, thanks everyone and please pray that my husband and i find a church home. we moved about 4 months ago to another city so its been hard to get connected to a church family. again thanks to everyone who responded. Please if anyone else has any questions please feel free to post.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:19 PM
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edited to state..this is a quick synopsis of a 10 week intensive course...I can't emphasize enough the importance of attending a biblicly based church that encourages bible study-if your church doesn't offer any please look for one that does. I was raised in church but did not know the intricacies of the Bible until I started reading for myself as an adult.

This is what I've learned and gathered from classes at my church ..

The old testament is a written work of the old covenant - God gave man rules and regulations to follow - throughout the old testament you see over and over again how man displeased and disobeyed God & through His infinite love He didn't want to destroy us - so He created a new way for man to be forgiven and to follow Him (the sacrifice of His son) - through the New Testament & the New covenant we are no longer required to follow all the rules and regulations to receive His blessings...so NO you do not have to follow the rules as listed out in Leviticus.

Most people who practice the Jewish faith still practice these rules and regulations listed in the Old Testament (including Rosh Hashana, Passover etc) because they do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and are still waiting for Him to come. Actually what Jews use as their holy books do not contain all the books of we call the Old Testament - they refer only to the first five books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,Numbers,Dueteronomy). Some say Jesus was a prophet others say a charlatan, however there are now some Jews (Jews for Jesus) who say that Jesus was the Mesiah although I haven't had the opportunity to speak or research to see how they reconcile the different practices.
Good information, makes things a lot clearer!
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Old 07-22-2004, 04:15 PM
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My home church in Columbus aided tremendously in my spiritual growth. New Salem Missionary Baptist Church, big church but I did not mind that. They have the BEST BIBLE STUDY I have ever experienced and I miss my all women's Sunday School class taught by the pastor's wife.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:41 PM
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My home church in Columbus aided tremendously in my spiritual growth. New Salem Missionary Baptist Church, big church but I did not mind that. They have the BEST BIBLE STUDY I have ever experienced and I miss my all women's Sunday School class taught by the pastor's wife.
The Salem church in Chicago is huge too, I wonder if they are connected.
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Old 07-22-2004, 05:52 PM
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Re: Bible Questions

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I know that there might be others like me who may be afraid to ask questions in person with someone so i thought this thread could help shed some light on questions that we might have pertaning the Bible or some interpretation of the scriptures.

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Praise God for you o2bame for wanting to get deeper in the word. I agree with Tony's statement in that you should be very careful who you allow to pour into your spirit. Some popular interpretations of biblical passages are, in my opinion, more man than God.

The Bible does say "study to show thyself approved (2 Timothy 2:15)

So I'd like to recommend a few resources to use in your studying.

Kay Arthur who wrote the EXCELLENT "Power of a Praying Wife" among other books, has a book that teaches the inductive study method. It's call "How to Study your Bible" It is available on Amazon.

In addition, one of the authors of the popular Left Behind series, Tim LaHaye wrote another good book about studying the bible called "How to Study the Bible for Yourself". It is also available on Amazon or probably any Christian bookstore like LifeWay.

I actually enjoy doing word studies, even though I do not read the bible like I should. There are a number of online tools that are very helpful to me, including the blueletterbible.org which provides commentaries, lexicons and concordances and www.biblegateway.com, which is a quick way to find a scripture. For instance, if you had just placed "tattoo" in their search, all of the scriptures with tattoo in it would have come up.

Regarding the wives "submit" scripture, the same Greek word is used as used with Jesus in talking about his relationship with God, the Father. Scripture tells us that the 3 persons of the trinity (God the Father, God the Holy Spirit and God the Son) are co equal in creation. Even though Jesus is equal to God, he made himself "subject" or he submitted to God the Father because of his position--not because he was better or more powerful.
1Corithians 15:28 says
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him [Eclipse's note: God the Father] that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The original Greek word for submit-- hupotasso (Strong's 5293)-- in the Ephesians 5 scripture is the same as subject in the 1Corithians scripture above. Modern day language has made submit a bad word, when it should not be. It's also interesting to note that Ephesians 5:21 talks about "submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God".

I've been working on this answer all afternoon between meetings, so I know there are probably a lot more posts with information so I will just close it out now

Hope it was some help.
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Old 07-22-2004, 06:34 PM
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My home church in Columbus aided tremendously in my spiritual growth. New Salem Missionary Baptist Church, big church but I did not mind that. They have the BEST BIBLE STUDY I have ever experienced and I miss my all women's Sunday School class taught by the pastor's wife.
I actually enjoyed New Salem Baptist Church a lot! We visit there quite a few Sundays. I think Pastor Troy is amazing. However, my husband and I werent raised in a Baptist church therefore our views and mindset are a little different than that of New Salem. Not saying that one way is right or wrong but it's just different.

I enjoy going anywhere where the word of God is being preached. But as a married couple I want to join a church where him and I are both comfortable.
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:01 AM
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wanted to add the book we used was How to Read the Old Testament by Etienne Charpentier (ISBN 0824505417). You can order on amazon.com
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:56 AM
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Re: Bible Questions

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I did on search on this topic and I didnt find an existing thread, but please correct me if I am wrong....

Anyway, I know that there are many religious people on Greekchat and many of you have a great knowledge of the Bible. Now I was raised in the Pentacostal and Full Gospel Church but although i was in church there were a lot things that I didnt quite understand and I dont have the gift of interpreting the Bible. I know that sometimes I have a lot of questions about the Bible or what certain things mean and because I havent found a permanent church home in Columbus I dont have a close relationship with a Pastor/Bishop. I know that there might be others like me who may be afraid to ask questions in person with someone so i thought this thread could help shed some light on questions that we might have pertaning the Bible or some interpretation of the scriptures.

Ok enough of the preface...

My questions: 1. Is there anywhere in the Bible that says that tatoos and piercings are wrong?

2. When the Bible commanded wives to submit to their husbands what exactly does that entail?
I will PM you cause I don't want the word to be tainted by liberal views and folks who are determined to make the word adapt to their lifestyle....and there's much too much of that..not only on GC..but among so called Christians as well..

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This might be a lil personal but hey i need help...

I am a new Christian, I have only been saved for about 3 years. I wasnt raised in the church or anything like that. But lately I have been in Bible Study and i am really trying to be a good Christian so i need some help.

I know that the Bible says that one should abstain from sex before marriage. So what do you do when you are older and you may have experienced that act prior to your commitment to Christ? I mean a lot of things are easier said then done if you feel my drift. So if someone can give me some encouragement of some personal advice I could sure use it. thanks

If you dont feel comfortable answering this question then please PM me. Cause im fo-real serious.
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:12 AM
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Honeykiss and LoveSpell:

I know you said you would PM, but why not post your interpretations on GC so that everyone can read it? Some other folks may learn something too, and for those that are saved who may have a different interpretation, remember "iron sharpens iron"!

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