Harry Potter Speculation

[Lady Pi Phi]

So in my complete and utter boredom I have been reading various websites and theories about Harry Potter.

There is one called The Changeling Hypothesis.

I haven't got all the way through it yet, but I don't think JKR is going to have something so complex in her book. She started writing these for children and if things get too complex in her books younger children just won't understand them.
The Changeling Hypothesis is so complex and over the top I have to say...ummm, no, never going to happen.

[chideltjen]

I can't remember which thread this was mentioned in because there have been a few already. BUT I got copies of Harry Schoolbooks (the Quidditch thru the ages and Fantastic Beasts...) on half.com the other day. Real cheap too. So if any of you are looking, try ebay and half.com. It is coming in the box set. Apparently Amazon has them for like $10 too. Just in case anyone was looking.

So in my complete and utter boredom I have been reading various websites and theories about Harry Potter.

There is one called The Changeling Hypothesis.

I haven't got all the way through it yet, but I don't think JKR is going to have something so complex in her book. She started writing these for children and if things get too complex in her books younger children just won't understand them.
The Changeling Hypothesis is so complex and over the top I have to say...ummm, no, never going to happen.

Does it take a really long time to load???? It keeps freezing my browser...

ETA: nevermind... it's IE on a Mac... Blah!

ETAA: Ok I just finished the Changeling... and I gotta say I have gone cross-eyed. It's so far fetched that it just might work. But yes Emily, I agree that I think a lot of young readers will be beyond lost it J.K suddenly went into the whole "Harry Potter is really Tom Riddle's soul... blah blah" story. Hell, it got me confused. Too much going back and forth.

And the whole story of Tom confuses me. I am re-reading GOF and you know how it goes into that whole story of the Riddle's in the beginning? It said that THREE people were killed that night. Tom's dad, Tom's mom, and Tom himself. However if Voldemort IS Tom... did he essentially kill himself? I guess that's where the whole "Voldemort is a spirit looking for a body" theory from the Changeling makes more sense. And so whatever soul inhabited Tom somehow got mixed up with Harry and yadda yadda yadda... oy... confused. Anyone care to shed light? I guess I need to re-read COS, but even then, the whole Tom/Voldy relationship still didn't clear up much.

[BaylorBean]

So I have been wondering more about Harry's parents past... We know alot about Lilly but very little about James (as I recall, its been a while since I have read the books). I wonder if some of his family members will resurface.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by BaylorBean
So I have been wondering more about Harry's parents past... We know alot about Lilly but very little about James (as I recall, its been a while since I have read the books). I wonder if some of his family members will resurface.

Supposedly in the 6th and 7th books we will learn more about Lily and James and other members of his family (ie grandparents)

ETA: Here's a link some might find interesting

http://www.mugglenet.com/books/booksix/facts.shtml

[sageofages]

Originally posted by chideltjen
And the whole story of Tom confuses me. I am re-reading GOF and you know how it goes into that whole story of the Riddle's in the beginning? It said that THREE people were killed that night. Tom's dad, Tom's mom, and Tom himself. However if Voldemort IS Tom... did he essentially kill himself? I guess that's where the whole "Voldemort is a spirit looking for a body" theory from the Changeling makes more sense. And so whatever soul inhabited Tom somehow got mixed up with Harry and yadda yadda yadda... oy... confused. Anyone care to shed light? I guess I need to re-read COS, but even then, the whole Tom/Voldy relationship still didn't clear up much.

I always took the 3 people dying to mean Tom R died metaphorically speaking. Tom was so upset that he ended one persona to become Voldemort. A conscienous change in the direction of who he would present to the rest of the world.

[Lady Pi Phi]

That's why I think that JKR isn't going to make it so complicated, because if I am confused you can damn well be sure that the little ones are going to be confused (or maybe I'm just not that smart, lol)

I think the ending will have a twist and be interesting, but I think she's going to keep it relatively simple, because oh my god, how much is she going to have to explain if she uses something like the Changeling Hypothesis?

I am definitly going to have to re-read PS/SS and CoS because I definitly feel like I am missing some vital information.

Also, has any one read the Harry Potter mysteries reveals books by Galadriel Waters?
I'm thinking I migh go pick one up today.

P.S There is another editor about the Changeling Hypothesis on Mugglenet.com under The North Tower.

[chideltjen]

Originally posted by sageofages
I always took the 3 people dying to mean Tom R died metaphorically speaking. Tom was so upset that he ended one persona to become Voldemort. A conscienous change in the direction of who he would present to the rest of the world.

This is what I was assuming, but the book mentioned it found 3 bodies. I guess an autopsy can't detect whether a body had a soul or not.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Since, Tom Riddle is a wizard, it leads me to believe that he would have an easier time faking his own death.
But then again, you could be right. An autopsy wouldn't be able to detect if a body had a soul or not. Tom Riddle's soul/spirit could have inhabited another body.

[DWAlphaGam]

Wow, that Changeling hypothesis is really interesting, but I agree, it's way too complicated for a kid's book. I think parts of it are definitely true, though; it is quite obvious that part of Tom/Voldemort is instilled in Harry. So, I think that a simplified version of that hypothesis is quite likely.

[aopirose]

Wasn't sure if this was answered.

A Kneazle is “a small catlike creature with flecked, speckled, or spotted fur, oversize ears, and a tail like a lion’s, the Kneazle is intelligent, independent, and occasionally aggressive, though if it takes a liking to a witch or wizard, it makes an excellent pet. The Kneazle has an uncanny ability to detect unsavory or suspicious characters and can be relied upon to guide its owner safely home if they are lost” from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. It can interbreed with cats.

[aopirose]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Also, has any one read the Harry Potter mysteries reveals books by Galadriel Waters?
I'm thinking I migh go pick one up today.

No but I have The Hidden Key to Harry Potter by John Granger. It looks at the book series from the standpoint of serious literature. so says the jacket cover.

I also agree that the complex Changling Theory is way a bit much. We may see something simpler. All along in these books things are not always as they appear.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally posted by chideltjen
And the whole story of Tom confuses me. I am re-reading GOF and you know how it goes into that whole story of the Riddle's in the beginning? It said that THREE people were killed that night. Tom's dad, Tom's mom, and Tom himself. However if Voldemort IS Tom... did he essentially kill himself?

I always thought that the three people killed were Voldemort's father and grandparents. Since Voldemort's father ran away and his mother died giving birth to him, it wouldn't make much sense for them to be killed. I could be wrong though.

[lyrica9]

Originally posted by AOII*Azra-elle
I was watching the extras on the 2nd movie and I think someone mentioned that Harry dies in book 7. I don't think Black is actually dead in book 5, something in the way it happens and what is exactly told to Harry makes me think Black will show up in either of the last books. I hope so, it sucks that she killed him off for now. I think Snape is a good guy, maybe he just wants that Prof of Dark Arts too bad and is always bitter when he doesn't get it!

naw, Rowling said Black is officially dead and is not coming back.

[lyrica9]

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
Yes, the most recent thing I could find was an article in October 2003's Biography magazine about Rowling.

MysticCat, I've heard the whole "final chapter is already written" a kajillion times, and I've never seen proof of it. She did flash a notebook showing her original plans for all the Hogwarts students, but despite multiple fans searching the net for the "last chapter" reference, no one has ever been able to provide a link to that interview, though some swear they saw it. It's supposed to have appeared sometime in 2000, but the evidence hasn't been provided. It's kind of an urban legend. I know that she did appear in a Biography channel interview, but it's an older one. Did she flash the chapter in it? I'm really fascinated about this because it's kind of a holy grail of Potterdom.

check www.mugglenet.com its an excelent resource for media.
hplexicon is awesome too.

[lyrica9]

Originally posted by chideltjen


And the whole story of Tom confuses me. I am re-reading GOF and you know how it goes into that whole story of the Riddle's in the beginning? It said that THREE people were killed that night. Tom's dad, Tom's mom, and Tom himself. However if Voldemort IS Tom... did he essentially kill himself? I guess that's where the whole "Voldemort is a spirit looking for a body" theory from the Changeling makes more sense. And so whatever soul inhabited Tom somehow got mixed up with Harry and yadda yadda yadda... oy... confused. Anyone care to shed light? I guess I need to re-read COS, but even then, the whole Tom/Voldy relationship still didn't clear up much.

Voldie being a spirit searching for a body didn't happen until he tried to kill Harry.
the three people that were killed were Tom Riddle and his parents. But Voldemort wasn't killed, remember, he was named after his father.

the creeping black haired teenager was Voldemort/Tom and the home was that of his grandparents, where the senior Tom Riddle lived as well.

Tom's mom died long before that, and i don't think it was by tom's hand, and its because of her death that he's sent to a muggle orphanage.

sorry for the multiple posts all in a row.
im a harry potter fanatic, and i have a problem addiction.