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07-15-2001, 09:18 AM
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These women obviously has not did their research on Gerald. I use to be a fan back in the day, way back. Then I read an article in a magazine where he was quoted as saying he doesn't like "FAT", "BLACK" women, and that's all that seem to be jocking him.
I personally was offended, being a BIG BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMAN myself. How dare he snub his nose up at a fan, no matter what the size.
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07-16-2001, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by DreamfulOne:
Maybe because I am NOT a member of Greek organization I do NOT understand! However, membership in the current nine orgs are continuously growing which shows people are still interested in those orgs...
How do you know these women AREN't MEMBERS of a greek organization! We don't know that. All we know is that they started an org interested in the recognition, blah, blah, of Gerald Levert!
I'm not trying to be disrespectful towards any current greek member...I just don't understand the hoopla over this!
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With all due respect, you said it yourself. You are not Greek and you don't/wouldn't understand. However, you do seem a bit adament and agitated...THAT'S interesting.
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07-16-2001, 03:11 PM
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For those out there who don't understand why we have a problem with those semi-Greek and Greek-like organizations out there....
The problem is confusion of identity in the public eye. We as Greeks must be cognizant of our public image due to the fact that while we serve the public in our programs, our membership and practices thereof are not open to the public. People fear that which they do not know. People tend to 'make up' explanations for things and rely on heresay. The public also can get groups who are similar confused in terms of who the members are and how they behave. We have enough problems trying to police our own members without having to defend our reputation because some other group is jocking our colors, letters, traditions and symbolisms.
Besides, isn't there already a G-Phi-G (Groove Phi Groove)?
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07-16-2001, 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by kissy324:
I don't mean to get all religious in here but let's not forget that the greek letters were also quoted in the bible: Revelation 1:8- "I am the Alpha and Omega". So are we supposed to scrutinize God for using greek letters?
Just something to ponder...
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Oh, man, I hate to seem rude, but when folks try to quote the Bible it strikes a cord in me. Were you aware that parts of the Bible were written in Greek??
Your comparision is so way off because you assume that the greek letters were thrown in. But they were not. Maybe you should re-read those parts to figure out why the greek letter are given and not the American English translation which also could have sufficed.
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07-17-2001, 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by straightBOS:
Your comparision is so way off because you assume that the greek letters were thrown in. But they were not. Maybe you should re-read those parts to figure out why the greek letter are given and not the American English translation which also could have sufficed.
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The entire NEW TESTAMENT was written in GREEK to be exact. The old testament was written in Hebrew....
However, Moderators ~ before this topic gets out of hand I think this thread should be closed.
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07-17-2001, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by kissy324:
I don't mean to get all religious in here but let's not forget that the greek letters were also quoted in the bible: Revelation 1:8- "I am the Alpha and Omega". So are we supposed to scrutinize God for using greek letters?
Just something to ponder...
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Uh.... God didn't use the Greek letters in that statement...and, if he had...he's the one who initially created all being, so, that's a different discussion.
Back to reality  , Glory Phi God was at the Greek in Philly last year. They were a wonderful group and they bonded in prayer with as many members of the NPHC that would stop and talk/listen to them. I don't see their use of G Phi G to be slanderous to Greek letters. Let's not forget that Greek letters have been in existence long before there were sororities and fraternities. I'm sure Greeks (actual Greeks--from Greece) may feel as if they're letters are being misused by fraternities and sororities at times (I wonder if they were ever asked for permission  ).
As long as groups like GPhiG do not attempt to misuse any of the names within the NPHC, I really don't care. There won't ever be another DST, like, Devoted Sisters for Tyrese. Anyway, my only issue was the use of "sorority." But, these girls are a type of sorority, I guess...as long as they do not attempt to replicate or compare themselves to HBGLOs any further, I am not too bothered.
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[This message has been edited by ChaosDST (edited July 17, 2001).]
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07-17-2001, 01:44 PM
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To: DreamfulOne
Why should the topic be closed? Last time I checked it was a message board where people-just as you did plenty of times-can state their opinion on the topic at hand. Everyone will not agree or see eye to eye, that's life sometimes. But when you really think about it, it's not that serious and the hoopla you see is just that-what you see.
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07-17-2001, 05:22 PM
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Thanks for those who think I am not familiar with the bible but if YOU read (Revelation 1:8) you will find that the phrase IS a quote from God. I will even be happy to quote it for you: "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Please don't assume something about someone you don't know.
I was trying to make a point but I guess I didn't do a good job (I'll take the blame and leave it at that). I wasn't talking about the use of the terms sorority/fraternity. I was simply talking about non-greeks using greek letters. There was a point I was trying to make, and this is a conversation that I have had before with others who I've been able to conversate with. But I won't go into anymore detail. It really isn't worth the energy from my fingers typing an explanation.
Much Love
(Just trying to keep the peace yall. No harm was intended)
[This message has been edited by kissy324 (edited July 17, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by kissy324 (edited July 17, 2001).]
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07-18-2001, 09:05 PM
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Has anyone from Groove Phi Groove said anything? Just curious.
I think those women have too much time on their hands and they need to take some evening classes or something...none of this is that deep. I mean, come ON! Gerald Levert?! ROFLMBO
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07-20-2001, 11:21 AM
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I think these sisters have taken their love for Gerald a tad too far. As much as I love Michael Jordan, I'm not starting a sorority to idiolize him!
Get a grip!
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07-21-2001, 12:09 AM
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IMO, GPHIG as it refers to the Gerald Levert situation has no relation to greek letters. It's an acronym that happens to resemble a greek organizations call letters. The same goes for GloryPhiGod or whatever.
I am a greek, but I also know that greeks do not own sororities/fraternities. The word itself is simply a social organization of women.
Delta Sigma Theta is one of a kind. I would be up in arms if my letters verbatim were used to distinguish any other "organization" be it women, men, children or otherwise. That to me is a different story.
We're always so concerned when others "might" misrepresent our organization when they're not even members. WE are accountable for representing our organization to the fullest. And if we do that, then there would be no confusion when others try to imitate. So, let GPHIGerald and Dedicated Sisters of Tyrese do their thing, cuz I'm going to keep on doing mine. DST to the day I die. Peace!
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07-20-2001, 01:47 PM
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We're always so concerned when others "might" misrepresent our organization when they're not even members. WE are accountable for representing our organization to the fullest. And if we do that, then there would be no confusion when others try to imitate. So, let GPHIGerald and Dedicated Sisters of Tyrese do their thing, cuz I'm going to keep on doing mine. DST to the day I die. Peace!
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Keep doing your thing. I don't think any of us said that these organizations were going to have any huge impact on our existence OR the existence of our organizations. Are you a member of Dedicated Sisters of Tyrese, by any chance?
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07-23-2001, 10:27 AM
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I saw Gerald LeVert in concert on Saturday for the 2nd time and again he still gets down and puts on a SHOW and not MESS.
I agree with the G Phi G'ers that Gerald has not received all of the accolades that he deserves for his music but you know what? A lot of people who win such awards, be it deservingly or not, are not 15 year mainstays in the music industry.
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07-23-2001, 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by ChaosDST:
Keep doing your thing. I don't think any of us said that these organizations were going to have any huge impact on our existence OR the existence of our organizations. Are you a member of Dedicated Sisters of Tyrese, by any chance?
Jes jokin,
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No one specifically stated that these groups would have any HUGE impact, but they did infer that they would cause confusion of identity, etc. I'm not trying to debate anyone's opinion. I was just offering my own. I think Delta's name has a long history of being recognized as a leading social organization, dedicated to change and improving upon society. I believe the way that image is tarnished is when our own members stray from the ideals of Delta. People don't confuse Walmart tennis shoes with Nike. Bad example, but I'm just trying to state that I don't think the poor imitations, deviations, or whatever have any significant impact on our image as much as I do our very own members.
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07-25-2001, 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by pebbles_6:
No one specifically stated that these groups would have any HUGE impact, but they did infer that they would cause confusion of identity, etc. I'm not trying to debate anyone's opinion. I was just offering my own. I think Delta's name has a long history of being recognized as a leading social organization, dedicated to change and improving upon society. I believe the way that image is tarnished is when our own members stray from the ideals of Delta. People don't confuse Walmart tennis shoes with Nike. Bad example, but I'm just trying to state that I don't think the poor imitations, deviations, or whatever have any significant impact on our image as much as I do our very own members.
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true.... I was agreeing with you.
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