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04-21-2004, 05:32 PM
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Congratulations to you, Brother Chuck and to your mother as well! It just so happens that Mon. night, my chapter also had election of officers and I was elected Associate Conductress of South Fort Worth #835!
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04-22-2004, 12:34 PM
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question ofr prince hall .....
I as well as many members of my family are very involved in masonic groups and i just heard recently being an adivsor for Job's Daughters that Ph members are able to join membership in blue lodge.... i think that is great..... and that your daughters are able to join jobs daughters and well demolay and rainbow were always open but OES and blue lodge and shriners and so on i think it is wonderful !
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04-22-2004, 01:30 PM
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Re: question ofr prince hall .....
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Originally posted by cutiepatootie
I as well as many members of my family are very involved in masonic groups and i just heard recently being an adivsor for Job's Daughters that Ph members are able to join membership in blue lodge.... i think that is great..... and that your daughters are able to join jobs daughters and well demolay and rainbow were always open but OES and blue lodge and shriners and so on i think it is wonderful !
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Sorry, but no PHA Mason may join another GrandLodge's blue lodge, OES, and etc. Now I say this like I know all PHA GrandLodge rules but I don't. I only know what I've read and things in Masonic land change constiantly. However, I do read up alot on rules and regualtions from other (REGULAR) GrandLodges and from what I have read PHA CAN NOT join other GRANDLODGES. We all know though visitation is in question as well.
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04-22-2004, 01:59 PM
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I heard from a few masons the other night as well as my dad and some uncles you were able to become members or affiliate .... there was major admenment passed recently from what i heard
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04-22-2004, 02:45 PM
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Whoa
Sistar, all I can say is "Whoa"! Please share the light! That would be great for the Craft! I would like to know where your father is from (GrandLodge). Please share the light.
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04-22-2004, 07:38 PM
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While I will extend the fraternal handclasp of a Mason to anyone who gives the proper signs and tokens of recognition, regardless of whether they are 'mainstream' or PHA; unfortunately in Texas the 'mainstream' (read: predominantly white) grand lodge (The Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Texas, AF & AM) does not recognize any Prince Hall grand lodges, under their rule of 'exclusive territorial jurisdiction'. Which sucks the big one...
Currently 37 out of the 51 'mainstream' grand lodges recognize Prince Hall Freemasonry in some form or other. An outstanding website with all sorts of Masonic information is at http://bessel.org/masrec/pha.htm .
The 'mainstream' Shrine recognizes the 'Egyptian' (Prince Hall) Shrine but its individual temples are subject to the governing policy of the mainstream Grand Lodge.
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04-22-2004, 07:45 PM
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Most Worshipful Grandlodge of Texas, AF&AM "Mainstream"? VERY QUESTIONABLE.
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01-09-2005, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
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Most Worshipful Grandlodge of Texas, AF&AM "Mainstream"? VERY QUESTIONABLE.
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My Brother,
The Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of the State of Oklahoma (whew, that was long-winded, but that's the official title!  ), to which I belong as a dual and perpetual member (Will Rogers Lodge #53, Claremore, Oklahoma) at their last Grand Lodge this past November has extended recognition to the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Oklahoma. Of course, it is pending reciprocal action by the Oklahoma PHGL; from there, it's possible that intervisitation between the two Grand Lodges will follow.
As for my home jurisdiction of Texas... one of these days they'll get with the program and extend the hand of brotherly love and friendship to their Prince Hall brethren. But until most of the less-progressive brethren who still have prejudices ingrained in their minds die off, it's not going to happen right away, and that also goes for most of the predominantly white Southern Masonic grand lodges.
Map of Grand Lodges which recognize Prince Hall Masons (in blue):
Not shown: Alaska and Hawaii (both recognize Prince Hall).
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01-09-2005, 01:23 AM
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lol
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01-09-2005, 02:05 AM
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The Real Deal! P.H.A here!
I bring forth greetings to ALL my fellow WORTHY PRINCE HALL (PHA) Brothers as one who has PASSED THE CHAIR and HELD MANY OFFICES as well and my PHA Sisters of OEStardom, along with the PHYLAXIS SOCIETY! I am representing the GREAT STATE of OKLAHOMA by way of the MILITARY LODGE ELEMENT compliments of OHML No. 10, Far East, Republic of Korea, not to mention being a Sublime Prince and Noble of AAEAONMS (where the BOYS are seperated from the MEN!) Elkdom (IBPOE) is too given a sincere and mighty warm welcome. Lastly, ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY, INC. Enough said! FRATERNALISM OF BLACKNESS is so BEAUTIFUL! I LOVE IT!
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01-09-2005, 10:00 PM
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lol
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01-09-2005, 11:32 PM
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Which did you become a member of first? Your stated membership is rather interesting. Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. is predominately African Heritage insofar as membership.
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01-10-2005, 06:21 AM
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lol
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01-10-2005, 11:56 AM
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lucksh0t travels.
Bro. lucksh0t, you can perhaps imagine the energy that exhisted behind closed doors in the lodge that you made mention of. With the lodge being comprised of Alphas and Omegas I am certain lots of fun, fun, fun is surely had during special times along w/lots of running and exercise (if you know what I mean). I came through the Nobility in the 80s strictly military and had a prominent Vietnam Vet who was a highly decorated Col. His title and rank did not mean a damn thing, as he too was SMOKED (old school of course) like each and every member that embarked upon the JOURNEY OF NO RETURN by way of the DESERT! All I remember is that I woke up the next day in my barracks w/my roommate congratulating me for having entered SHRINEDOM.
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01-11-2005, 06:17 PM
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lol
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