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09-28-2003, 08:15 AM
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The South has overcome the racial divides it experienced in the 60's and in earlier years. I mean look at Charlotte, NC and Atlanta, GA!
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Excellent point. Folks love to talk about how oppressed black southerners are, but you will find more blacks in positions of political leadership in the South and Southeast than you will in any other part of the United States. I'm not sure I agree that the slavery and the Civil Rights movement are things to be "gotten over", but to say that life is terrible just because black women may or may not be admitted to NPC chapters south of the Mason/Dixon line is kind of a myopic view.
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09-28-2003, 09:14 AM
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If this story ends up being true, this is quite sad. The sorority that took her should be proud of her. I most certainly hope so. Do you guys know if she's still in the sorority? I might have missed that in the article.
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1. The "story" (if you can call someone printing the opinions of a former member of an organization who was not even present for the events she is describing a "story") is not true. Not one bit of it is true, even down to the number of members on the executive board of that chapter.
2. The sorority that "took" her IS very proud of her. Carla is a beautiful and intelligent young lady, as are the other members of her pledge class.
3. She is still in the sorority's new member class. I posted earlier that she will be initiated on October 16, along with the rest of her pledge sisters.
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09-28-2003, 09:25 AM
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We need to listen to what GammaPhiBabe has to say. She is THERE with that chapter; she knows what happened and what is media-driven crap. We've all seen how one disgruntled member can drag a chapter through the mud for her own reasons (that AGD at UGa a couple of years ago), so some people need to quit believing that just because a paper published something it's true.
Hijacks that ramble off into insults and generalization about the South aren't serving any purpose except making the GC Southerners angry. I don't know one Southern GCer who's anything but thrilled that Gamma Phi pledged Carla--so why do some people feel compelled to keep making comments about racism? We are behind her. Lay off.
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09-28-2003, 01:03 PM
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Congrats to her!
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09-28-2003, 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by carnation
We need to listen to what GammaPhiBabe has to say. She is THERE with that chapter; she knows what happened and what is media-driven crap. We've all seen how one disgruntled member can drag a chapter through the mud for her own reasons (that AGD at UGa a couple of years ago), so some people need to quit believing that just because a paper published something it's true.
Hijacks that ramble off into insults and generalization about the South aren't serving any purpose except making the GC Southerners angry. I don't know one Southern GCer who's anything but thrilled that Gamma Phi pledged Carla--so why do some people feel compelled to keep making comments about racism? We are behind her. Lay off.
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I don't think anyone isn't listening to GammaPhiBabe. If anything, it seems that most of us dismissed the allegations McGee made as being based on jealousy or ulterior motives (hence the title of the post). There has not been any negative comments against the Gamma Phi chapter. We all know the general ineptitude of most campus newspapers, especially those with a strong anti-Greek bias like the CW.
I don't see any insults or generalizations about the South on this thread, and I was born and raised in the South--so I imagine that I would be pretty sensitive to it. I'm just not overly sensitive to it, and I can see where my home region needs to make some progress.
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09-28-2003, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by carnation
We need to listen to what GammaPhiBabe has to say. She is THERE with that chapter; she knows what happened and what is media-driven crap. We've all seen how one disgruntled member can drag a chapter through the mud for her own reasons (that AGD at UGa a couple of years ago), so some people need to quit believing that just because a paper published something it's true.
Hijacks that ramble off into insults and generalization about the South aren't serving any purpose except making the GC Southerners angry. I don't know one Southern GCer who's anything but thrilled that Gamma Phi pledged Carla--so why do some people feel compelled to keep making comments about racism? We are behind her. Lay off.
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09-28-2003, 04:22 PM
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PSPGirl... You took the words right out of my mouth!!! As I read her post.. I was yelling AMEN, like I was at home in my grandmother's church!!!!!!!!!
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09-28-2003, 04:43 PM
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PSPGirl... You took the words right out of my mouth!!! As I read her post.. I was yelling AMEN, like I was at home in my grandmother's church!!!!!!!!!
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LOL!!!
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09-28-2003, 04:56 PM
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I don't understand what the big deal of letting an african american into a npc. my sorority has an african american, dominican, nigerian, a girl from turkey is rushing this semester and maybe a girl from egypt. also, the kappa alpha psi chapter on my campus has a white brother as president. maybe my campus is more diversified but shouldn't the same national rules apply to everyone?
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09-28-2003, 05:24 PM
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So much ink about this wonderful young lady and almost none about minority pledges at other campuses.
As the T-shirt says, "GET OVER IT!
I just read this and thought it applied...
"At the end of the night, everyone is proud of everyone else, we couldn't be a house without rush. ... It's all about sisterhood and friendship, when all our hard work comes to fruition," Miller said.
--UCLA Article on Rush Thread.
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09-28-2003, 05:44 PM
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I think on a very conceptual level most people don't see what the big deal is about inviting someone who is different into your life. Public policy has pushed integration and unity and embracing diversity. On a pure business and community level, it is necessary. And as the face of America is browning, fraternities better wake-up and accept that being open to diversity will be key to keeping membership strong.
But that doesn't mean parents believe and are teaching their children the same thing privately, behind the closed doors of their homes. Many people were raised with social parameters when it comes to diversity (i.e. it's okay to be friends but don't date one). Like I said before, most people simultaneously believe that "all men are created equal" and "I am superior to you because of my fill in the blank" Like everyone said, all the isms start in the hearts of individuals
I don't think Southerns are more racist or less racist than any other region of the country (I'm a black woman who has lived everywhere and have seen the good bad and ugly everywhere) but culturally speaking, Southerners are more grounded in, or put more emphasis on history and tradition. Traditions die hard in this country. .
I applaud the women of GPB and Carla Fergueson for getting past tradition. Hopefully in 5 years, this topic will not even make it to the Greek Chat room.
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09-28-2003, 05:55 PM
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2Blue said:
So much ink about this wonderful young lady and almost none about minority pledges at other campuses.
Actually--I asked the question weeks ago in the AOII room about recruitment diversity. You can check it out--I think 10 people responded.
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09-28-2003, 06:01 PM
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Alright......
Look race, colour, religion, or sexual orientation is only an issue if you make it an issue. Really look at the person instead of the label. As long as you are hung up on the label you will have problems..... This girl sounds like a great addition to GPB, so what if she happens to be black? I mean come on....
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