Interracial dating question

[cash78mere]

Originally posted by Shelacious
It's "controversial" when talking about black/white mixes particularly because throughout American history (South African history too), a dividing line was created between full Africans and Africans mixed with white. There has long been this subversive notion in America, and within the black American community as a result, that the more "white" or mixed race you have in you, the more attractive you are (especially for black women). It's called the color complex, and I would assume that all "minority" ethnicities have some version of it.

This is totally the subject of a different post, and is a HUGE subject and discussion, but just understand that it's controversial because from house slave/field slave times (the bi-racial Africans got to work in the "big house" doing domestic chores, "being able to imitate white folks' ways" while the dark Africans worked in the fields) to only light-skinned blacks (again, particularly women) getting roles as in early films or as dancers at Harlem's Cotton Club (Josephine Baker was considered too dark originally) to conducting the "paper bag test" on a person to see if they were light enough to be accepted into a particular club or society...skin color and racial features have played a big part in the relative level of privilege afford some groups. It is still a sensitive issue for many people, especially those who have felt the sting of people criticizing you because your hair is too nappy, your skin too dark, your features too African. Yes, sadly it still goes on to this day, particularly if you are a black woman.

i see your point and appreciate the history lesson. while i don't think they're beautiful because they look more 'white', i just think they're beautiful for who they are. but i can see the historical side, although that is not what i personally was referring to.

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

First thing of I thought was my neice and nephew

The cutest damn half-Filopino babies around

But anyway, I know around here if you're white and you're seen (let alone dating) with anyone a different shade of you, it's frowned upon. Sucks doesn't it?

[FiReKraCkEr]

Originally posted by AlphaGam1019
wait, I thought you were hapa ?

So, I still consider myself Korean or Asian....

If you look at my pics, that's what I mostly look like...it's the Hawaiian in me as well.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by smiley21
you said that i said that biracial people are more attractive for the whiter features. i cant believe that people would think i would say that. please show me where in my posts did i say that. cause i would NEVER say such a thing. this may a conversation on the computer but i am in tears right now. listen to me when i say I NEVER SAID OR WILL I EVER SAY THAT "WHITER" FEATURES MAKE BIRACIAL PEOPLE MORE ATTRACTIVE. i am not trying to be mean. i am just defending myself. i would never say or imply something so cruel and tasteless. you said that you arent putting words in my mouth but that is exactly what you just did.

If you check out my post again you'll see that it begins "Your statement kind of implies . . . " Not "Oh my god, I can't believe you said that . . ." Plus I concluded with "I know that's probably not what you meant." I fail to see where I put words in your mouth.

I think that lovelyivy and I were just trying to educate because there WILL be people out there who would take your statement the wrong way. I'm sorry if that was misunderstood.

[Dionysus]

39 posts and I haven't heard any from the "horses' mouths".

I guess it's too sensitive of a subject, oh well.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Dionysus
39 posts and I haven't heard any from the "horses' mouths".

I guess it's too sensitive of a subject, oh well.

what horses you looking for?

[Jill1228]

I did post a direct post
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...029#post507029

In my area (Pacific NW) stares are rare.

My husband and I have not had any problems out here

Originally posted by Dionysus
39 posts and I haven't heard any from the "horses' mouths".

I guess it's too sensitive of a subject, oh well.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by smiley21
I just said that i like the skin color on birracial people. i like other people's skin. but i just mentioned birracial people cause they COULD have skin color that we are not normally used to seeing.

Smiley21, when you say "but i just mentioned birracial people cause they COULD have skin color that we are not normally used to seeing" , what unusual color is it that does not already exist within the our ethinicity? (I say our because I am Af. Am too).

As you know, skin color wise we run the gamut of skin tones from extremely light, to tan, to deep brown. (I read somewhere that we have over 48 documented skin-tones, while other ethinicities only have about 7-10). So what does make the skin tone of a biracial child so "special and different" when its same exact shade already exist in many african americans? (Honestly, who knew Halle Berry was biracial until you saw her Lifetime Intimate Portrait?)


The only difference is the fact that the child is BIRACIAL - which some folks would interpret as reinforcing the twisted notion that "being mixed" is somehow better or more beautiful that those who are not "mixed". (Shelacious's post gave us the historical reasoning).

This post is not to criticize your intent, but I did want to shed some light on it for other people who may be looking at this discussion like " WTF are they talking about?"

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by smiley21
and i fail to see how i could be misinterpretted. how come sigmagrrl isnt being jumped on for the comment she made right after mine? if you are referring to when i said 'interracial couples adds more color to the normal everyday life....' i meant the i like seeing people who bring races together as if the color doesn't matter. ok now i explained myself. i am sorry if you saw my comment as 'racist' or whatever. i have NO PROBLEM with seeing one race couples or one race people. i am a one race person. i have a background in many different ethnicities but both of my parents are black. my comment got blown way out of proportion. i made one comment about skin, and the next thing i know - i am being told to be careful cause i could get into a debate about people's hair. WTF? i just said that i like the skin color on birracial people. i like other people's skin. but i just mentioned birracial people cause they COULD have skin color that we are not normally used to seeing. if people misunderstand that, let them. not everyone who makes a positive comment about one race means they dont like the others.

****i love the pink roses. does that mean the red roses would think that i hate them?***

Seriously, there is no need to get upset. The reason that nobody is "jumping on" sigmagrrl for her post is that nobody is jumping on you. All that those of us who posted were trying to do was let you know that there are people out there who wouldn't understand what you were trying to say and would be very upset. Your post was quoted because it was the first one, but that doesn't mean that sigmagrrl's would be any less offensive to them.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Dionysus
39 posts and I haven't heard any from the "horses' mouths".

I guess it's too sensitive of a subject, oh well.

I posted.

I don't get many stares. My father was concerned that Mr Munch and I would get static the first time I visited his family, as opposed to my smaller, more bigoted, and much less cosmopolitan home. Ha ha ha.

[Dionysus]

Nevermind. I was talking about the Black male/White female and White male/Asian female combo specifically.

But the comments about the other combos were just as interesting.

[AKA_Monet]

First of all, this topic has been discussed and re-discussed. So do a search...

Second of all, the term RACE is a socio-political construction of some a$$wipes back in the 19th century to justify why certain groups of people should be enslaved vs. others and White Supremacy...

(Off the soapbox, switchin' gears with major CD, CD, CD...)

From a genetic perspective, there is no such thing as RACE. We are all "gradations" of one another... The coloring in our skin is derived from the "tyrosinase" gene the generates degrees of melanin. Other issues such as hair texture and facial feature might be related to the environmental impact--called genetic pressure...

Genetically, the mitochondrial "Eve" and the "Out of Africa" Theory, all Homo sapiens sapiens came out of the southern tip of Africa and traversed thru the what is now the Middle East into Europe and across Asia.

The Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms in a given population is suggesting the same result... All humans came from Africa--genetically...

The difference is skin color may be a result our hues needing to adjust to a variety of conditions such as cold, darkness, less light, viral, mutation, etc., etc.

But overall, if we can mate with each other and produce babies, we are all but one in the same...

I do not like these kind of discussions because I find the knowledge base so very lacking. Folks really need to know all of their history before rattling off what they think ought to happen.

I will leave it at that, because I will start putting a ironic spin to it where I can get the very folks you want in here and then this topic will be shut down...

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet


I will leave it at that, because I will start putting a ironic spin to it where I can get the very folks you want in here and then this topic will be shut down...

Do it.
Do it now!

[starang21]

Originally posted by smiley21
just as long as the racial preference isnt a sign of prejudice. there nothing wrong with choosing mates by race. cause it is about being happy.

i missed this one...but anyhow,

are you kidding? how the hell is choosing by race NOT a sign of prejudice? being happy has nothing to do with skin complexion. on top of this, excluding your own race from your dating spectrum shows that you might have some sort of issues with it. if i walked around saying "asian women are this, asian women are that.." that's why i date black women....that makes me extremely ignorant.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Do it.
Do it now!

You really do not want me to go there now, do you???

Given my last silly questioned topic, it was amazing with the answers I got...

PM me if you want...