Expansion-Who would you choose?

Kilo · #1 03-21-2003, 02:28 AM

I was just curious as to what group you think would be the best to bring onto a campus out of these Organizations. I would prefer suggestions based on National knowledge of their organization, their values they uphold and their ability to recruit on a campus where there is only a 3% Greek population on a 20,000 student campus. These are the groups...
-Beta Theta Pi
-Sigma Chi
-Delta Chi
-Delta Upsilon
-Pi Kappa Phi
-Phi Sigma Kappa

Thanks,
-Kilo-
Delta Sigma Phi

DeltaBetaBaby · #2 03-21-2003, 02:37 AM

Of course, there are many other things that depend on the campus, such as nearby chapters, housing requirements, etc., but without this information, I would say DU.

Why DU?

Well, there founding was based on de-mystifying Greek organizations, in a way. I think that the open ritual is something that appeals to men who are uncertain about Greek life.

DeltaSigStan · #3 03-21-2003, 02:42 AM

Sigma Chi. That's the only one out of that list that we have. Well, there IS Du, but I'm sticking with Sig Chi

JerzeeBoy26 · #4 03-21-2003, 02:59 AM

Beta Theta Pi without a doubt. we are one of the oldest, largest and most respected fraternities in the nation. Our Men of Principle Initiative is redefining greek life. need more info? go to www.betathetapi.org and see why we are #1

Kevin · #5 03-21-2003, 04:53 AM

From the above list I'd have to say Beta. They don't have one on my campus but the chapters that do exist in the state (and the colony that already has a mansion) enjoy HUGE alum support.

josh8o · #6 03-21-2003, 05:34 AM

i think you need to add phi kappa psi...but i am drunk..so whatever

AOIIalum · #7 03-21-2003, 08:59 AM

Based on the list you provided and knowing of their generally high level of alumni involvement and support, I'd say Beta Theta Pi.

Based on my heart and my personal experiences, I'd say Delta Chi without hesitation.

If your school is considering fraternity expansion, make sure to consider alumni support. Some fraternities do that very well, and it makes a huge difference!

Christin

hoosier · #8 03-21-2003, 11:51 AM

The thing you ought to do is bring 'em all on.

Why are you trying to limit the number of chapters when 97%of the students are non-GLO?

And who gives anyone the power to keep anyone out? Is your campus in Iraq?

ksig600 · #9 03-21-2003, 02:14 PM

I think I would look at which orgs are stong in your geographic region. That would mean that they would have great resources if they decided to colonize.

For example, I would add Sigma Chi or Beta Theta Pi to my campus in GA because they are both strong orgs in the south.

It just depends where you are...

BSUPhiSig'92 · #10 03-21-2003, 02:26 PM

Delta Upsilon started a colony on our campus (12,000 enrollment 3-4% Greek, 75% commuter) my first year as advisor and struggled. They finally pulled out after about 18 months. However, they started other colonies at the same time and they did great. Ask a lot of questions of all of these groups. Colonies can do well when the expansion team is still on campus, but then flop when they leave. Some questions I would ask:

1. When will local alumni actually start working with the colony? Do they have solid commitments from alumni to advise the colony?

2. How long will the expansion team be on campus, when ( or if) they will be coming back?

3. When will they teach the members how to

effectively recruit?

FuzzieAlum · #11 03-21-2003, 03:17 PM

Really, I think the most important question is who else is already on campus? Fraternities do have different kinds of guys they want, and so - what great group of guys aren't being targeted by the fraternities you already have?

I would say based on national strength, Beta or DU. And that is national - based on just my campus I would not recommend either one!

Little E · #12 03-21-2003, 05:41 PM

We had a Beta Colony fail last year, and it wasn't for lack of trying. They had a great counselor out here for most of the semester and he worked his ass off. What it comes down to is the stigma any of those orgs may have had if they ever left campus. Beta here was hurt by how they left...it was VERY messy. I agree, look to the surrounding area, how much support will they have? My one problem with that it that then favors the big nat'l fraternites and in someways discounts the smaller ones. Look at the guys that this is trying to attract, what are they into, what kind men are they? If they are hesitant, the DU could be a great option.

Peaches-n-Cream · #13 03-21-2003, 05:47 PM

Kilo, of the groups you have mentioned I would choose Beta. They colonized on my campus when I was an undergrad. I was impressed by the active roles that their national, alumni, and other nearby chapters played in their founding.

33girl · #14 03-21-2003, 06:10 PM

I think it depends upon what your campus is like.

For example, if you don't have campus housing you don't want to bring on a fraternity where all the chapters have big houses on campus and it is a major focus of their programming. If you have a lot of non-traditional students, you don't want a group whose rules won't bend to accomodate that.

Kevin · #15 03-21-2003, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
The thing you ought to do is bring 'em all on.

Why are you trying to limit the number of chapters when 97%of the students are non-GLO?

And who gives anyone the power to keep anyone out? Is your campus in Iraq?

Definitely.

I don't agree with the usual conception that Greek Life at 3% of the student body could be at "capacity". It's probably because there are too few groups and those individual groups have reached their capacity or are incompetant when it comes to recruitment!

One thing that can give a stagnant group a needed kick in the ass is a little competition! Greek Life for men on our campus has shot through the roof since they brought us and PKA within a 2 year period! Now we see the need to add more fraternities!

NPC Sororities are a little different. 3 houses at quota, one struggling. Another house is needed but because one house cannot recruit they sit on their thumbs and turn girls away.