Why I will never support Bush - Page 6

GeekyPenguin · #76 03-20-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by KuThetaChi
No my statement wasn't "america: love it or leave it", you obviously have failed to read my post so for the third time I will explain it. I will go into more detail this time to perhaps take care of any scraps of confusion still floating around. I said 1) change the system.... if you don't like how our country works then do something to change it. Don't just bitch and moan, if you won't take action you have no right to whine. 2) like I just said stop whinning and bitching, if you refuse to do something to change the way things are you have no right to speak against them "angry apathy"??? 3) If you refuse to change the system, you refuse to stop bitching, then finally you have option 3 leave the damn country. People who leech off this country, who enjoy the privledges of living here and then disrespect this country don't deserve to be here. Note I didn't say anything about Bush. You are disrepspecting your country by being apathetic.... that to me is un-american.....

Oh, ok, I'll just go fill out my papers to run for President...oh wait, I'm under 35. Senate? Nope, still too young. Man, I'm even too young for the House! I think a lot of us don't write about everything we do on GreekChat. I'm a lot more politically involved than I talk about on here, quite frankly because it BORES most people who don't have a similar involvement, and I bet the same is true of most GCers on both sides of the spectrum. As for the "People who are apathetic are disrespectful" argument, look out for the Wisconsin National Guard troops that got deployed, because the ones I know don't give two hoots about politics or our system. Are they still un-American? I bet you wouldn't think so.

doubleblue&gold · #77 03-20-2003, 12:22 PM

Okay, so I wasn't about to read all these long posts that seem to be over-heated. Yes, everyone has a right to state their opinions, but really, do you think you'll change someone else's?

Boys and girls, didn't your mama ever teach you not to argue religion and politics??

agger_rob · #78 03-20-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Some comments here are so funny.

Blood for oil. haha.

Why don't we go after N. Korea? haha

Iraqi civilians that are going to die? hahahaha

Bush not voted in. hahaha

The US just providing Iraq's weapons. haha

This being "Bush's war" and someone clearly not understand the War Powers Act and saying Bush is being a tyrant. haha

And posting opinion pieces by writers rather than experts as evidence. hahaha

And just to be fair and correct the pro-war people, war is not good for the economy. That's just 5th grade social studies dribble taught by idiot teachers.

This is just too funny. I thought about correcting some of you. Instead I will just tell you all that I am WAY smart.

-Rudey
--And no, none of you are entitled to your opinions because I am smart and I say so. Praise my ego!

Preach on brohter man!

KuThetaChi · #79 03-20-2003, 02:21 PM

I'm sorry, but I stand by my statement. You are never to young to get politically involved so don't give me that crap. If you are as "involved" as you say you are you would know that. From the time you are young you can be a page, at 18 you can vote and run for local offices. Between being a page and being able to run and vote you can lend your support to local politicians. You can be mad at me cuz my opinions are different...it's really ok. A lot of people here despite hard fact not just opinion still don't support Bush or this war and thats fine. And yes I do think I can change opinion, just like I except that if hard enough evidence is provided mine can be changed as well. So I'm sorry that you are so offended by my comments but I stand by them..... 12 years is 12 years and you know what Bush is looking out for the people of Iraq more than his father did and more than Saddam ever has.....

KuThetaChi · #80 03-20-2003, 02:23 PM

And you can tip toe around it but Apathy is Un-american.... that statment isn't wrong, os if you are involved great but that statement stands

Cloud9 · #81 03-20-2003, 03:14 PM

And what are YOU guys doing eh? Shouldn't you be in the army right now, if you're so active in supporting this decision?

I am involved in a number of anti-war campaigns, and petitions(Hi, I live in NY, land of social movement - well, one of them), and also am involved in activities geared towards supporting armed forces. Since I have no obligation to justify myself to people I never met and who never met me, that is enough for you to know.

And those who simply speak out regarding their feelings are not apathetic. Apathy would be staying silent without forming any opinion other than what either side's extremists spoon feed you. Forming strong and informed opinions is the beginning of the energy that moves someone to act. Don't underestimate that.

#82 03-20-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by doubleblue&gold
Okay, so I wasn't about to read all these long posts that seem to be over-heated. Yes, everyone has a right to state their opinions, but really, do you think you'll change someone else's?

Boys and girls, didn't your mama ever teach you not to argue religion and politics??

What a boring website this would be if we didn't.

It'd be nothing but Fraternity/Sorority Life threads, "girls, what handbag/makeup/store/ is your favorite" threads , "dirty sex acts" threads, and "ooo, i'm having boy/girl problems" threads.

Nothing wrong with a serious discussion, even if it's heated.

Kitso
KS 361

sugar and spice · #83 03-20-2003, 07:22 PM

I agree. If you don't want to debate, don't -- personally I know I try to stay out of the more heated threads. But I like reading them just the same.

I think other people's points of view are interesting, even if I don't agree with them. And usually reading other opinions just serves to make me more educated and more convinced of my own opinion because I realize how much I disagree with what other people are saying.

I don't think anybody's trying to change anybody's mind. They're just trying to educate.

KuThetaChi · #84 03-20-2003, 07:24 PM

Actually apathy involves action. BY saying your opinion on here and then not taking part in campaigns pro or con or doing toehr activities geared towards making a difference you are still apathetic. I recognize you can be agaisnt the war and not apathetic. I like you take part in rally's for the soldiers and Bush so I respect that you are taking a stand for your beliefs I just don't share them and after the hard facts wonder how you can feel that way....

Heated is better than luke warm....I'm enjoying our banter!!

GeekyPenguin · #85 03-21-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by doubleblue&gold
Okay, so I wasn't about to read all these long posts that seem to be over-heated. Yes, everyone has a right to state their opinions, but really, do you think you'll change someone else's?

Boys and girls, didn't your mama ever teach you not to argue religion and politics??

Yes and yes.