What can be done to help smaller GLO's?

[Tom Earp]

Isnt it true that Many if not Most GLOS are in a Regional Situation where they are stonger as not?

Granted, they may be trying to spread wings as it were?

[Little E]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?

Tom, the original question what WHAT can be done, not WHO is supposed to do it. I think most people would say that if XYZ is seeking help, and NPC does not want to loose member orgs, NPC would need to help. There are two conversations going on in this thread, one is about extention, the other is what can be done to help other groups. Similar, but different beasts.


AXiD670- Though it is slightly out of context it does point to the fact that our orgs futures are essentially up to the minds of whimiscal 18 yr olds who only have a HS degree. I think if we, NPC, wanted to make new strides toward regional chapter diversity it would have to look at new rules for extention and HQs would have to play a much larger role in that process. For example, AST (cause I don't want to pick on anyone else) would have to say, we do have 23 chapter is PA, the next time a campus open up, we will promise to forgo those opportunities for the chance to have a preferential presentiation in CA. I just, sadly, think that might be way to much to ask. Of course you then have to have alumnae support to make it work, or all hell will break loose.


Just thinking while I type....

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by Little E
Tom, the original question what WHAT can be done, not WHO is supposed to do it. I think most people would say that if XYZ is seeking help, and NPC does not want to loose member orgs, NPC would need to help. There are two conversations going on in this thread, one is about extention, the other is what can be done to help other groups. Similar, but different beasts.


AXiD670- Though it is slightly out of context it does point to the fact that our orgs futures are essentially up to the minds of whimiscal 18 yr olds who only have a HS degree. I think if we, NPC, wanted to make new strides toward regional chapter diversity it would have to look at new rules for extention and HQs would have to play a much larger role in that process. For example, AST (cause I don't want to pick on anyone else) would have to say, we do have 23 chapter is PA, the next time a campus open up, we will promise to forgo those opportunities for the chance to have a preferential presentiation in CA. I just, sadly, think that might be way to much to ask. Of course you then have to have alumnae support t o make it work, or all hell will break loose.


Just thinking while I type....

No, still thinking, Who is Supposed to Help? That was My Question. (?)

At What Level as it were. National or Local Greeks?

[tnxbutterfly]

Originally posted by kddani
I have heard not so positive rumors about the local at CMU, but things may have changed since then. I hope so!

CMU used to let their greeks get away with a lot, but have REALLY cracked down in recent years.

Out of curiousity- does Theta Nu Xi have a chapter at CMU?

As for as i know, we don't have a chapter at CMU. But we are growing by leaps and bounds...

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally posted by tnxbutterfly
As for as i know, we don't have a chapter at CMU. But we are growing by leaps and bounds...

CMU is a very diverse campus ethnically and ideologically as well. I think that Theta Nu Xi or another MC org would be well recieved there, actually.

[kddani]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
CMU is a very diverse campus ethnically and ideologically as well. I think that Theta Nu Xi or another MC org would be well recieved there, actually.

That was my line of thinking as well. Though all the groups there are pretty much multicultural, because the campus is so diverse itself.

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by Little E
I think if we, NPC, wanted to make new strides toward regional chapter diversity it would have to look at new rules for extention and HQs would have to play a much larger role in that process. For example, AST (cause I don't want to pick on anyone else) would have to say, we do have 23 chapter is PA, the next time a campus open up, we will promise to forgo those opportunities for the chance to have a preferential presentiation in CA. I just, sadly, think that might be way to much to ask. Of course you then have to have alumnae support to make it work, or all hell will break loose.

Now that is an interesting take on this. International Presidents making deals for colonies. It is almost like baseball trades - we trade a current opportunity for a player (colony) to be named later. It probably could work, but it also could lead to political alliances between groups and under-the-table dealings. It is something I had never thought of though.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
No, still thinking, Who is Supposed to Help? That was My Question. (?)

At What Level as it were. National or Local Greeks?

It's both. The NPC Alumnae Panhellenic Associations should be teaching the Collegiate Panhellenic Associations that numbers can go up AND down. Locals should try to ally themselves with the general rules of the different Panhellenic Associations, to better understand how to use the system to either become an NPC colony, or to further their own GLO.

[Little E]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
No, still thinking, Who is Supposed to Help? That was My Question. (?)

At What Level as it were. National or Local Greeks?

I would say at a National level. I think women in college are learning to run a chapter, not the national organization. I kinda feel that decisions of this magnitiude should be in the hands of people with experience. (Well that is if we are still discussing assistance, if it is expansion we are discussing, I think a hybird of the current model would be more effective)

[LPIDelta]

Originally posted by irishpipes
Now that is an interesting take on this. International Presidents making deals for colonies. It is almost like baseball trades - we trade a current opportunity for a player (colony) to be named later. It probably could work, but it also could lead to political alliances between groups and under-the-table dealings. It is something I had never thought of though.

There are already alliances between groups...political and otherwise...and I think that may be part of the problem. The so called smaller groups need to come together to discuss what their needs are mutually, and learn from one another--and as far as I know, that does happen from time to time.

I do not get the impression that NPC really is interested in helping member groups grow or maintain membership outside of the agreements regarding campus recruitment. It really is up to each national to take control and make their own plans.

I see the original question as helping smaller GLOs become more known. The reality is--most people who aren't involved in Greek life aren't going to know names of groups or where they are located (except for Tri-Delta, thanks to the SNL skits.) I can go to one town where my org is active and lots of people may know mine, but never heard of XYZ or ABC. Unless SNL makes fun of all of us, we'll probably not ever be as well as known as others.

[WCUgirl]

Originally posted by Heather17
There are already alliances between groups...political and otherwise...and I think that may be part of the problem.

Hmmm...that's interesting. I didn't know that. What kind of alliances are we talking about here? Like, "If you don't colonize at this school, we'll let you have this school?" or something else?

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by AXiD670
Hmmm...that's interesting. I didn't know that. What kind of alliances are we talking about here? Like, "If you don't colonize at this school, we'll let you have this school?" or something else?

I didn't know anything about alliances either. I assume you are referring to "unoffical" agreements, right? Actually, I don't know what you are referring to at all, do you mind elaborating? Are you meaning agreements to keep rival members down or what?

[bruinaphi]

Originally posted by Heather17
I do not get the impression that NPC really is interested in helping member groups grow or maintain membership outside of the agreements regarding campus recruitment. It really is up to each national to take control and make their own plans.

While I agree that it is up to each national to take control and make their own plans, I disagree with you on the idea that NPC doesn't want to help groups grow or maintain membership. What you have to remember is that NPC is interested in helping the system grow, which means seeing all member groups grow and maintain members. That is why the new release figures were developed, the recruitment structure was changed, and quota/total was changed. These changes have helped all member groups grow and maintain membership. On campuses where the RFM was implemented several years ago we are seeing a much more level playing field evolve.

It is my understanding that this biennium they are looking at membership retention.

[Xylochick216]

Originally posted by BetaRose
Do you know which 2 locals?

I heard Alpha Delta Chi and Xi Gamma Zeta