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Old 10-05-2023, 06:18 PM
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Isn’t that the truth? We spend billions of dollars on finding new ways to kill each other. I wonder how much money was spent to create Covid. Now they’re making all that money back off of the vaccine that I believe was created before the virus was. In other words, we’ve had the vaccine, but let’s tell everybody this is all brand new, that way we can kill off some folks for about a year, then we’ll show up with the vaccine. Supposedly, every 100 years a pandemic shows up. How do they know this, unless it’s being purposely created?
It is impossible to create a vaccine before the virus exists.
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Old 10-05-2023, 06:28 PM
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It is impossible to create a vaccine before the virus exists.
Not if the virus has already been created and not released. I don’t believe Covid is a natural virus. People made it. They had the vaccine before the virus was released. That’s completely possible.
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Old 10-05-2023, 08:53 PM
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It is impossible to create a vaccine before the virus exists.
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Old 10-05-2023, 09:56 PM
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You don’t think that’s possible? In this day and age?
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Old 10-05-2023, 10:10 PM
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^^^ Well, you have to look at both the virus and the vaccine. The main aim of a virus is to reproduce successfully, and to do this, its genetic material has to download the information it carries. Mostly, this will take place in the cell’s nucleus where the virus can access the molecules it requires to begin manufacturing its own proteins. And then, the job of the vaccine is to weaken the virus in a way to where it has a hard time reproducing itself inside the body. How would you know what your vaccine is capable of without the actual virus you created it for? lol

That’s all Dee was saying. Her post was hilarious! lol
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Old 10-05-2023, 10:24 PM
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Ya know, I wish Donald Trump would “Save America” and “Make America Great Again” by simply eating a Covid-laced dick and dying.
I shouldn't have been drinking water when I read that. You owe me a new keyboard.
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Old 10-05-2023, 10:26 PM
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I shouldn't have been drinking water when I read that. You owe me a new keyboard.
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Old 10-05-2023, 11:27 PM
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^^^ Well, you have to look at both the virus and the vaccine. The main aim of a virus is to reproduce successfully, and to do this, its genetic material has to download the information it carries. Mostly, this will take place in the cell’s nucleus where the virus can access the molecules it requires to begin manufacturing its own proteins. And then, the job of the vaccine is to weaken the virus in a way to where it has a hard time reproducing itself inside the body. How would you know what your vaccine is capable of without the actual virus you created it for? lol

That’s all Dee was saying. Her post was hilarious! lol
Lol I should have rephrased it. I meant having both before releasing the virus itself. That’s what I meant. I think that’s what they did.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:01 AM
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It is impossible to create a vaccine before the virus exists.
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^^^ Well, you have to look at both the virus and the vaccine. The main aim of a virus is to reproduce successfully, and to do this, its genetic material has to download the information it carries. Mostly, this will take place in the cell’s nucleus where the virus can access the molecules it requires to begin manufacturing its own proteins. And then, the job of the vaccine is to weaken the virus in a way to where it has a hard time reproducing itself inside the body. How would you know what your vaccine is capable of without the actual virus you created it for? lol

That’s all Dee was saying. Her post was hilarious! lol
He’s partially correct. I think the MRNA technology that was used in the vaccine was developed around 10 years ago.
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Old 10-06-2023, 11:12 AM
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He’s partially correct. I think the MRNA technology that was used in the vaccine was developed around 10 years ago.
I heard it was modified. The reason for the M in RNA.
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Old 10-06-2023, 11:48 AM
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According to google, M stands for messenger.
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Old 10-06-2023, 05:36 PM
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Not if the virus has already been created and not released. I don’t believe Covid is a natural virus. People made it. They had the vaccine before the virus was released. That’s completely possible.
If it has been created but not released, then it exists. That's not what was said earlier.
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Old 10-06-2023, 05:41 PM
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He’s partially correct. I think the MRNA technology that was used in the vaccine was developed around 10 years ago.
Yes, they had been working on the MRNA technology for some time, but they still have to have the virus to enable that technology to work for that particular virus. Now that they have used MRNA technology for vaccines, they will be create future vaccines quicker and quicker. But if conspiracy theories prevent people from trusting the vaccines, then we(humanity) will go through this over and over.

We get new viruses constantly. There's no evidence that COVID-19 was created on purpose to harm humanity. It hurt China's economy more than it did ours because they were shut down much much longer.
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:47 PM
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He’s partially correct. I think the MRNA technology that was used in the vaccine was developed around 10 years ago.
Yes, but with mRNA technology, we don’t act blindly anymore. The vaccine is carefully designed for its particular use, which is why you need a virus first. So, with new vaccines, scientists don’t really use chemicals. They use the genetic code as a message to send our cells, to warn them about the risk of the new particular virus. An mRNA vaccine is a message with a genetic code in a form of RNA.

And then, most viruses spill over from animals to humans. So, their first excuse is always going to be it came from some kind of animal. That’s a given. Outside of my family and close friends, I don’t put anything past humans, especially if they’re people being controlled by a dictatorship. Dictators don’t care about murdering millions of people, as long as the dictator benefits from it. You’d think humanity would get wiser based on the past, but instead we seem to get more unwise, knowing what has happened in the past. It’s 2023 and the morals are the worst. And instead of getting better, they will not. It’ll get worse as time goes on. That’s a fact. So if China created Covid and lied about its origin, I swear I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
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Old 10-07-2023, 12:01 AM
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If it has been created but not released, then it exists. That's not what was said earlier.
I was typing too fast, AGDee… faster than what I was thinking Lol.
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Yes, but with mRNA technology, we don’t act blindly anymore. The vaccine is carefully designed for its particular use, which is why you need a virus first. So, with new vaccines, scientists don’t really use chemicals. They use the genetic code as a message to send our cells, to warn them about the risk of the new particular virus. An mRNA vaccine is a message with a genetic code in a form of RNA.

And then, most viruses spill over from animals to humans. So, their first excuse is always going to be it came from some kind of animal. That’s a given. Outside of my family and close friends, I don’t put anything past humans, especially if they’re people being controlled by a dictatorship. Dictators don’t care about murdering millions of people, as long as the dictator benefits from it. You’d think humanity would get wiser based on the past, but instead we seem to get more unwise, knowing what has happened in the past. It’s 2023 and the morals are the worst. And instead of getting better, they will not. It’ll get worse as time goes on. That’s a fact. So if China created Covid and lied about its origin, I swear I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
Things have gotten a lot better in some respects when you compare it to past events.
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