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Old 02-16-2021, 02:53 PM
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Whether you're on or off campus, if you're enrolled at the University, you're subject to the student code of conduct. Several universities have enacted student code of conduct rules that state if you join an unrecognized fraternity or sorority, you are in violation of the code of conduct. I don't know exactly how you enforce it, but it's already out there.

I really think that is being put into place because universities are having such a hard time getting unrecognized groups to cease operations. I'm interested if all these fraternities still have their national office backing them.

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Ok.

Duke seems to have been having a few problems recently. I read the article but it's still not clear. Do I understand, then, that those disaffiliating fraternities intend to continue operations off-campus? Duke seems to be playing hard-ball in saying that the students will still be held to the student code of conduct, even when off campus.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:20 PM
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AEPi becomes 8th fraternity to disaffiliate from Duke IFC

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Old 02-22-2021, 06:38 PM
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state if you join an unrecognized fraternity or sorority, you are in violation of the code of conduct. I don't know exactly how you enforce it, but it's already out there.
If you're a public university, that'd violate students' Constitutional Right of free association.
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:16 PM
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If you're a public university, that'd violate students' Constitutional Right of free association.
While that may be true, these types of things are in place at many universities.

Here are just a few:

St. John's University, NY

A student who facilitates participation in an unrecognized student organization may be charged with violations of the Student Code of Conduct and referred to the student conduct process. The accused student may be subject to the full range of disciplinary sanctions available at the University, up to and including expulsion.

A list of unrecognized student organizations can be found on StormSync. Students who are recruited to join an unrecognized student organization are encouraged to report such action to the Office of Student Conduct. A student who was unknowingly recruited to join an unrecognized student organization but then recruits St. John’s students to join that organization at a later date, shall be charged with violations of the Student Code of Conduct and referred to the student conduct process. The accused student may be subject to the full range of disciplinary sanctions available at the University, up to and including expulsion.


Elon University

To support the educational integrity of co-curricular activities on campus and to ensure the safety and well-being of our students, Elon University has established expectations, policies, and processes for recognized student organizations. When an organization or group has had its university recognition denied, suspended, or withdrawn, students and student organizations are prohibited from affiliating with this group. Examples of affiliation include, but are not limited to: joining, accepting an offer of membership, or hosting social activities with the group.

Outcomes – normally, not less than disciplinary probation with possible permanent separation, based on the severity of the violation; and educational and/or restorative program or project.

Lafayette College

No student may rush, pledge, join, recruit for, participate in, perpetuate, contribute funds to, or otherwise engage in activities as an actual or prospective member of an unrecognized organization while on any property owned or under the control of the College (referred to as “Lafayette campus”), including but not limited to the public and private areas of the College, residence halls or other living areas on campus, as well as other buildings and facilities, including the grounds, athletic fields, and other property of the College, or while otherwise using Lafayette’s resources, wherever they may be located. (Such conduct is hereinafter referred to as “Prohibited On-Campus Conduct.”) Prohibited On-Campus Conduct also extends to the use of College-provided electronic mail, telephone service, servers, or other College-supplied technology, even when physically off of campus property, if using Lafayette’s resources to reach onto campus to engage in conduct regarding an unrecognized organization. The foregoing broad prohibition on the use of any College property in connection with Prohibited On-Campus Conduct by unrecognized organizations is intended to make clear that any such conduct is undertaken without College approval or endorsement, and constitutes a violation of this policy.

An unrecognized organization is any fraternity, sorority, or other similar social organization that:

Previously was recognized by the College but is no longer so recognized; or
Has a membership and purpose substantially identical to a fraternity or sorority that previously was recognized by the College but is no longer recognized by the College, even if operating under a different name; or
Purports to be any other fraternity, sorority, or organization not recognized by the College, regardless of whether it has a national affiliation or is recognized elsewhere.
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Old 02-22-2021, 11:22 PM
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While that may be true, these types of things are in place at many universities.

Here are just a few:
These are all private schools. Public schools cannot do this.
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Old 02-23-2021, 10:46 AM
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So say I join the Elon County Cosplay association, which meets off campus. Say the majority of members happen to be college students. Will they get kicked out for that?
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Old 02-23-2021, 02:23 PM
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SUNY Plattsburgh

NOTE: Students may NOT join organizations that have lost recognition from the College. These organizations have been closed by the College and international organizations because they were not upholding fraternal values and were engaging in risky behaviors that endangered themselves and other students. Students who join organizations that are not recognized by the College are subject to judicial action, including dismissal. The following groups ARE NOT recognized by SUNY Plattsburgh: Alpha Chi Rho Fraternity and Pi Alpha Nu Fraternity.

This is a public school.

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Old 02-23-2021, 03:38 PM
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Pi Kappa Alpha becomes 9th fraternity to disaffiliate from Duke, join Durham IFC

https://www.dukechronicle.com/articl...ernity-council
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Old 02-23-2021, 05:49 PM
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SUNY Plattsburgh

NOTE: Students may NOT join organizations that have lost recognition from the College. These organizations have been closed by the College and international organizations because they were not upholding fraternal values and were engaging in risky behaviors that endangered themselves and other students. Students who join organizations that are not recognized by the College are subject to judicial action, including dismissal. The following groups ARE NOT recognized by SUNY Plattsburgh: Alpha Chi Rho Fraternity and Pi Alpha Nu Fraternity.

This is a public school.
If SUNY Plattsburgh take action against Alpha Chi Rho or Pi Alpha Nu's members, then there'll be grounds for a lawsuit. A hypothetical policy not actually being enforced is not ripe for review. The organizations might have a legitimate case that said policy has depressed membership intake and has damaged them, so you might look at a tortuous interference in a business relationship type claim. Of course, that's all NY law, which I don't claim to know anything about.
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:16 PM
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https://www.dukechronicle.com/articl...y-disaffiliate

Wait, so... am I reading this correctly?

Shreyas Gupta, founding member of Abolish Duke IFC & Panhel, wanted to abolish Greek Life by pushing for anti-fraternity policies disguised as being what's best for all of Duke, then when the fraternities found a way around it, he became frustrated with that, claiming they don't want to push for diversity and inclusivity, and the very nature of now being "underground" - due to these revised policies - will make them less inclusive?

Uh... you reap what you sow?
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