AOII officially disbands Washington University chapter

[thetalady]

It is hitting all of us across the country. We are all going to lose chapters to this AGL movement. For collegians, it is not enough to simply resign their memberships. They insist on destroying the chapter entirely so that NO one can join. They don't want it and no one else can have it either. Like a bunch of spoiled children.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by thetalady

It is hitting all of us across the country. We are all going to lose chapters to this AGL movement. For collegians, it is not enough to simply resign their memberships. They insist on destroying the chapter entirely so that NO one can join. They don't want it and no one else can have it either. Like a bunch of spoiled children.

Amen!

[carnation]

This actually sounds like a lot of these kids are mentally ill.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by thetalady

It is hitting all of us across the country. We are all going to lose chapters to this AGL movement. For collegians, it is not enough to simply resign their memberships. They insist on destroying the chapter entirely so that NO one can join. They don't want it and no one else can have it either. Like a bunch of spoiled children.

Yea, I really can't understand the logic behind this. All of these articles have quotes by current or ex-members who essentially say, "Well the (inter)national organization won't listen to us and won't support our want to burn everything to the ground!" Perhaps that's because you've been a member for five minutes and don't even understand the very thing you're looking to destroy.

[navane]

Originally Posted by thetalady

It is hitting all of us across the country. We are all going to lose chapters to this AGL movement. For collegians, it is not enough to simply resign their memberships. They insist on destroying the chapter entirely so that NO one can join. They don't want it and no one else can have it either. Like a bunch of spoiled children.

It's because they are thinking of this from a self-centered perspective. They seem to believe that this is *their* chapter and they want to close *their* chapter. The chapter is not "theirs", the chapter belongs to AOII.

Originally Posted by from the news article

During the fall 2020 semester, multiple other sororities attempted to officially close their chapters, including Delta Gamma and Kappa Delta. However, largely due to a lack of receptiveness from the national organizations, those efforts have failed to yield results. Additionally, some sorority members who deactivated during the summer have chosen to rejoin Greek Life.

Can anyone expand on this? Did some members resign their membership and then petition to rejoin the chapter or did they join a different GLO?

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by thetalady

...Like a bunch of spoiled children.

Veruca Salt isn't just a 90s alt rock band or a character from a book and a movie.

And don't forget to look toward whom they had, for the past four years, as a 'stellar example' of leadership of a country.

[33girl]

I assume this is because of groups pledging non-binary members.

I hate to break it to them, but I’ve gotten through 35 years being called a brother of Alpha Phi Omega and I haven’t suffered any long term issues from it.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I assume this is because of groups pledging non-binary members.

I hate to break it to them, but I’ve gotten through 35 years being called a brother of Alpha Phi Omega and I haven’t suffered any long term issues from it.

Thank you!

[naraht]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I assume this is because of groups pledging non-binary members.

I hate to break it to them, but I’ve gotten through 35 years being called a brother of Alpha Phi Omega and I haven’t suffered any long term issues from it.

Even within Alpha Phi Omega it gets *complicated*.

For starters, APO Philippines uses Brothers for all male members and sisters for all female members, and a campus will actually have a fraternity chapter and a sorority chapter (or conceivably only one, in which case only members of only that gender can join at that school) (The history there is that all of the Little Sister groups were unified as Alpha Phi Sigma nationally, then as Alpha Phi Omega Auxiliary Sorority and *then* true equality.

In APO-USA, the general reason for the global use of the term brother is that the women that were joining chapters underground for equality wanted to be called brother since the "sisters" that other chapters had were little sisters and thus treated unequally. However I have run into a few chapters (Georgetown University in Washington DC springs to mind) where a good number of the women have at various times wanted to use the term sister, however the term sister has no official meaning in APO-USA.

For non-binary members, given the general usage of brothers in APO-USA, I don't expect a problem there with the terms brothers. (I have *no* idea what APO-Philippines would do)

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by naraht

Even within Alpha Phi Omega it gets *complicated*.

Two of the GLOs I interacted the most often with in college with, Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, have dealt with membership like this even in the early to mid 00s. Not every campus would have both KKY and TBS, but because of Title IX rulings No one was barred from seeking membership in either group. Female members of KKY were still referred to as Brothers and male members of TBS would be called Sisters. At my campus, we had a couple of people that were male TBS sisters and female KKY brothers. No one made an issue of it then and from what I remember the reasons for an individual joining one over the other were personal and usually just meant they felt a stronger connection to one over the other even though both GLOs work in tandem for their service missions.

[sigmagirl2000]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

Two of the GLOs I interacted the most often with in college with, Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, have dealt with membership like this even in the early to mid 00s. Not every campus would have both KKY and TBS, but because of Title IX rulings No one was barred from seeking membership in either group. Female members of KKY were still referred to as Brothers and male members of TBS would be called Sisters. At my campus, we had a couple of people that were male TBS sisters and female KKY brothers. No one made an issue of it then and from what I remember the reasons for an individual joining one over the other were personal and usually just meant they felt a stronger connection to one over the other even though both GLOs work in tandem for their service missions.

Yes, this. As a UMMB member, when I was there, there was only one male member of TBS and one female member active in KKY, and both clearly fit there well. We also had a lot of Sigma Kappa members (such as myself), I almost joined TBS, but definitely would have been a better fit in KKY had I had time to join another Greek org.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Veruca Salt isn't just a 90s alt rock band or a character from a book and a movie.

And don't forget to look toward whom they had, for the past four years, as a 'stellar example' of leadership of a country.

Not to mention the parents who raised them for 18.