GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Greek Life
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Greek Life This forum is for various discussion topics regarding greek life. If you are posting a non-greek related message, please do so in one of the General Chat Topic forums.

» GC Stats
Members: 329,739
Threads: 115,667
Posts: 2,205,090
Welcome to our newest member, aellajunioro603
» Online Users: 2,324
2 members and 2,322 guests
shadokat
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-19-2020, 02:16 PM
ForrestGrump ForrestGrump is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Metro DC
Posts: 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenAnchor View Post
Sounds like it’s time for me to make a big donation to DG then
Yes! I already have an automatic donation to the Foundation set up, but I just might do some additional unplanned giving.

As for lots of DG's being upset about this, either they aren't expressing it or they aren't on social media. I first heard about this policy change a few days ago on one of DG's regional Facebook pages. For every member who was upset, disappointed or, yes, even outraged, there were five more who were supportive and even pleased. Same reaction when Executive Offices posted the announcement on Instagram yesterday -- the number of members who were happy or OK with it far outweighed those who were unhappy. And some members of other NPC organizations (e.g., KKG, AGD, ADPi, PiPhi) weighed in with their support and challenged their own organizations to make a similar change.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-19-2020, 03:51 PM
carnation carnation is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,241
I looked at the page. Anyone who is against the change is getting attacked, so I suppose that they--like often happens in cases like these--will be silently showing their opposition by withdrawing their money.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-19-2020, 09:24 PM
TriDeltaSallie TriDeltaSallie is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Beautiful West Michigan
Posts: 778
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnation View Post
I looked at the page. Anyone who is against the change is getting attacked, so I suppose that they--like often happens in cases like these--will be silently showing their opposition by withdrawing their money.
There is no acceptable way to express opposition to this because a segment of society is attempting to make any kind of dissent unacceptable. I read this thread last night and walked away without commenting because I knew what I wanted to say would probably lead to being attacked.

My thought as soon as I read this? Wokeness and equity comes to NPC recruitment and, therefore, NPC. The timing is interesting because I just finished watching an extensive interview with Peter Boghossian and James Lindsey about how wokeness destroys organizations from within in a very predictable pattern whether it is a church, a knitting club, a hiking group, or a college/university. It cuts off conversation, creates an alienated middle, and ultimately destroys the community. One of the things they specifically mentioned is the way it guts organizations financially as people in the alienated middle are forced out and leave with their money. I would guess this is the start of it in the NPC.

And if you think I'm overstating this, let's come back in four years and revisit this thread. Declining college enrollments, a prediction of 25% of colleges/universities closing in the next ten years, coronavirus fallout, massive job losses, and now these kinds of decisions?

I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I bet I'm not.
__________________
"Let us found a society that shall be kind alike to all and think more of a girl's inner self and character than of her personal appearance." Sarah Ida Shaw

My recruitment story: My sorority membership changed my life.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-19-2020, 09:27 PM
carnation carnation is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,241
Thumbs up

I wish you would forward this to the NPC.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-19-2020, 11:25 PM
TriDeltaSallie TriDeltaSallie is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Beautiful West Michigan
Posts: 778
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnation View Post
I wish you would forward this to the NPC.
Here is the video I'm referencing. It's the first of three videos. The initial context is the Southern Baptist Convention because of a event that brought it about, but it goes far beyond that into academia, private association groups, etc.

Substitute the name of a sorority or NPC into the discussion and you'll see why I said what I said. I don't doubt the good intentions of anyone involved with DG (or any other group that decides to go this way). But the good intentions will probably not keep any sorority from experiencing the same fallout that has played out over and over again as they discuss at length.

https://youtu.be/YDFL3xwEEG8
__________________
"Let us found a society that shall be kind alike to all and think more of a girl's inner self and character than of her personal appearance." Sarah Ida Shaw

My recruitment story: My sorority membership changed my life.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-20-2020, 03:55 PM
AnchorAlumna AnchorAlumna is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Old South
Posts: 2,939
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForrestGrump View Post
As for lots of DG's being upset about this, either they aren't expressing it or they aren't on social media.
I think they don't dare express themselves. You're liable to get attacked or shamed or ridiculed.
Within the last two weeks, we've had so many changes and bold political proclamations, my head is swimming. Not to mention the upcoming completely new and unprecedented methods of recruitment that we're fixin' to try out.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-20-2020, 04:41 PM
Titchou Titchou is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sweet Home Alabama
Posts: 4,597
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna View Post
I think they don't dare express themselves. You're liable to get attacked or shamed or ridiculed.
Within the last two weeks, we've had so many changes and bold political proclamations, my head is swimming. Not to mention the upcoming completely new and unprecedented methods of recruitment that we're fixin' to try out.
Exactly....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-20-2020, 04:43 PM
carnation carnation is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,241
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna View Post
I think they don't dare express themselves. You're liable to get attacked or shamed or ridiculed.
AnchorAlumna, I saw that during the pile-ons. No respect at all. This is why I expect that many women will simply withdraw their support.

I agree with FSUZeta! Thank you, TriDeltaSallie for the eye-opening video!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-20-2020, 04:50 PM
ForrestGrump ForrestGrump is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Metro DC
Posts: 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna View Post
I think they don't dare express themselves. You're liable to get attacked or shamed or ridiculed.
Within the last two weeks, we've had so many changes and bold political proclamations, my head is swimming. Not to mention the upcoming completely new and unprecedented methods of recruitment that we're fixin' to try out.
Kind of like how DGAlumna was treated here? Yeah, I see how that works.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-20-2020, 04:59 PM
carnation carnation is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,241
DGAlumna started out very condescending--kind of like. "Ok, all you clueless underlings," and actually said at first that only the older people were rude. Um, no.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Legacy Policy azureblue Sorority Recruitment 20 08-29-2014 04:04 PM
Chi O Legacy Policy ccwstc Sorority Recruitment 17 09-17-2007 11:07 PM
AKPsi Legacy Policy Durron Recruitment 3 12-14-2006 04:54 PM
Legacy Policy alum Sigma Alpha Epsilon 1 01-22-2006 10:55 PM
What's your legacy policy? Jen Greek Life 17 07-19-2005 11:13 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.