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02-06-2020, 02:54 PM
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Alpha Tao Omega?
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02-06-2020, 03:01 PM
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Right Triad, but wrong Fraternity. Kappa Alpha Order.
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02-06-2020, 04:10 PM
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Right Triad, but wrong Fraternity. Kappa Alpha Order.
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My next two guesses were the other groups from that triad.
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02-06-2020, 05:29 PM
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My hunch was KA, given that they were founded in December 1865. As recently as the 1980's, the chapter at my campus was still holding an annual Nathan Bedford Forrest Day, to celebrate the Confederate General. In addition to being a hero of KA, Forrest was also a well-known proponent and member of the KKK. And their annual spring formal was called "Old South" -- some of the brothers actually dressed up in Confederate uniforms and encouraged their dates to dress in frilly hoop skirts a la Scarlett O'Hara.
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02-07-2020, 08:27 AM
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My next two guesses were the other groups from that triad.
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Oddly enough, While ATO would have been a guess for me, I don't think of Sigma Nu in the same way. Not sure why the difference in current views (at least mine) on Sigma Nu.
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02-07-2020, 09:26 AM
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Oddly enough, While ATO would have been a guess for me, I don't think of Sigma Nu in the same way. Not sure why the difference in current views (at least mine) on Sigma Nu.
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Since we voted to accept minorities back in 1969, a lot of our chapters have become pretty diverse. Our Dartmouth chapter actually left Sigma Nu entirely until we integrated. There was a pretty legendary fight over integration at our 1969 Grand Chapter. Future Senator Trent Lott led the fight against integration and was successful the first time it was proposed.
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02-07-2020, 01:59 PM
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Since we voted to accept minorities back in 1969, a lot of our chapters have become pretty diverse. Our Dartmouth chapter actually left Sigma Nu entirely until we integrated. There was a pretty legendary fight over integration at our 1969 Grand Chapter. Future Senator Trent Lott led the fight against integration and was successful the first time it was proposed.
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Sometimes I think the question is not "Whose Dartmouth chapter left over integration", but "Whose Dartmouth chapter *didn't* leave over integration".
For my fraternity, we had a chapter at an HBCU in 1947 and are trying to figure when our first African-American member (and yes that predates the term African American)
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02-07-2020, 10:08 PM
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Sometimes I think the question is not "Whose Dartmouth chapter left over integration", but "Whose Dartmouth chapter *didn't* leave over integration".
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Sigma Nu expanded beyond the Deep South in a big way. Our Law still requires the big policy items to be somewhat democratic and still allows for our undergrad members some self-determination. It turns out that just around '69, we had expanded so far out of the Deep South that the non-racists slightly outnumbered the racists. I'm not sure that's a great thing to say, and I'll bet many of those racist members would disagree with my characterization, but they were what they were.
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When your founding members either fought with or sided with the Confederacy, you've got some foundational issues. I'm satisfied with how far we've come.
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02-13-2020, 10:52 AM
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Since we voted to accept minorities back in 1969, a lot of our chapters have become pretty diverse. Our Dartmouth chapter actually left Sigma Nu entirely until we integrated. There was a pretty legendary fight over integration at our 1969 Grand Chapter. Future Senator Trent Lott led the fight against integration and was successful the first time it was proposed.
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According to the Wikipedia article on the Dartmouth GLOs.
The Dartmouth chapters of Alpha Chi Rho, Chi Phi, Delta Upsilon, Phi Gamma Delta, Phi Kappa Psi, and Sigma Phi Epsilon all disaffiliated from their national fraternities in the 1960s.
Later in the article specifically for Sigma Nu it says
In response to the national fraternity's segregationist membership policies, the fraternity went local in 1963, becoming Sigma Nu Delta. In 1984, after the national fraternity's policies were changed, the fraternity reaffiliated with the national.
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