Miami University Suspends Delta Tau Delta for 15 years

[naraht]

Also, I've never understood why 10-15 years. I understand banning for long enough to make sure that none of the current brothers are still on campus, but beyond that just seems odd.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by naraht

Also, I've never understood why 10-15 years. I understand banning for long enough to make sure that none of the current brothers are still on campus, but beyond that just seems odd.

My guess is it's one of two things (or both):

1) Lay down a harsher punishment to get across a message of "This is egregious, and we're not putting up with this s***"

2) Ensure that even after the current members graduate, they can't stick around as recent alumni and influence a rechartered chapter

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by naraht

Also, I've never understood why 10-15 years. I understand banning for long enough to make sure that none of the current brothers are still on campus, but beyond that just seems odd.

I think much of this has to do with the pattern of hazing on this campus. It's rampant, both in fraternities and in sororities. My opinion is that many who attend this school have a sense of entitlement beyond what I have seen at other universities.

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

I think much of this has to do with the pattern of hazing on this campus. It's rampant, both in fraternities and in sororities. My opinion is that many who attend this school have a sense of entitlement beyond what I have seen at other universities.

Yes, this. It is never ending on this campus, and no matter how much the Greek Life office tries to address it, no matter how much nationals try to address it, no matter how dedicated individual chapter advisors are, every year/every other year -- another egregious story makes the news. Sororities and Fraternities are both equal opportunity offenders at Miami. It is a very challenging climate for chapter advisory boards, particularly when the advisors come from a different school or region and have no patience with the atmosphere in Oxford.

15 years is not long enough in my book. Many times when chapters are placed on probation, it becomes a mark of honor that they use in PR. I know of one sorority in particular that played that game when put on probation.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

Yes, this. It is never ending on this campus, and no matter how much the Greek Life office tries to address it, no matter how much nationals try to address it, no matter how dedicated individual chapter advisors are, every year/every other year -- another egregious story makes the news. Sororities and Fraternities are both equal opportunity offenders at Miami. It is a very challenging climate for chapter advisory boards, particularly when the advisors come from a different school or region and have no patience with the atmosphere in Oxford.

15 years is not long enough in my book. Many times when chapters are placed on probation, it becomes a mark of honor that they use in PR. I know of one sorority in particular that played that game when put on probation.

The question is whether Delta Tau Delta will refuse to do anything on campus for 10 years, and if the group continues to call itself Delta Tau Delta and/or use Delta Tau Delta symbols will Delta Tau Delta be willing to sue.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by naraht

Also, I've never understood why 10-15 years. I understand banning for long enough to make sure that none of the current brothers are still on campus, but beyond that just seems odd.

That span of time would make it more difficult for alumni of the suspended group to come back as volunteers continuing to promote practices which got them suspended in the first place.