Would you support raising the minimum GPA for freshman PNMs?

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Whoa!! College Panhellenic may NOT establish a minimum GPA for PNMs to participate in rush, per the MOI.

" College Panhellenics that wish to highlight the importance of academics by communicating GPA standards for women participating in recruitment shall do so through educating potential new members, not through setting a minimum GPA. "

My bad. All the "super highly suggested above 2.5 stuff" gets twisted sometimes in conversations.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Not only that, she may not have gone through formal rush at all. There’s nothing that says a sorority can only choose their pledges from women participating in formal rush.

This is pure speculation, and is going to be really politically incorrect.

“We may have had to endure the indignity of Li’l Poundcake not getting admitted directly onto main campus while OTHERS did, but boy howdy, we can make it certain that she gets into XYZ.”

Again, all speculation on my part.

Absolutely makes sense.

From my standpoint, most (all?) of the women I see that get CAPed (being allowed to go to another UT school and transfer in later) elect NOT to do that, and instead go to Austin Community College, live in the private dorms with their friends and then transfer into UT Austin as a 2nd semester freshman or 1st semester sophomore. This was an option that was less "socially acceptable" (for lack of a better phrase?) as recently as 4-5 years ago, but because of the situation there has become more "normal".

Thus the 1.9 makes me skeptical of transferring in...whether it be from another UT school or ACC - they still have to be admitted to UT Austin, and I know several who were not admitted as transfers. Obviously there's exceptions to every rule and the exception in question may have had two semesters in UT (spring freshman and summer freshman) to tank her GPA.

Originally Posted by DistantXOcousin

I speak for my own experiences when I say that I’ve seen this all the time at our larger chapters with more popularity (Arkansas, Alabama, and Texas, for example). A bit of money, some prestige, legacy, and the potential to be great wipe away all worries of GPA. It happens today and it happened back in the Stone Age when I was a PNM. The simple fact of the matter is that sororities depend on their alumnae groups and angering an alumna by not letting in her legacy is something that’s worried about. It’s sad but it’s the way of sororities these days. Without support, some chapters don’t thrive, letting in a legacy and keeping everyone happy is the easiest route, it may not be the right one but it’s definitely done.

Again, totally makes sense.

Thanks for everyone's input. This is a personally interesting conversation to me (obviously!) and I didn't mean to stir the pot at all and have people pearl-clutching (ha!) over my comments. I know enough about the situation there (enough to be dangerous anyway!), so I'm invested.

[carnation]

The thing is, I have seen more and more Li'l Poundcakes cut from their legacy groups every year. I have to wonder whether the members just don't care anymore if they lose financial support of alums, because I know of several chapters who knew they would lose a lot if they cut certain girls and they did it anyway.

[shirley1929]

DoeofDenmark if you can answer this from my other post (you might not be able to) I would be curious...

Originally Posted by shirley1929

The 1.9 makes me skeptical of transferring in...whether it be from another UT school or ACC - they still have to be admitted to UT Austin, and I know several who were not admitted as transfers. Obviously there's exceptions to every rule and the exception in question may have had two semesters in UT (spring freshman and summer freshman) to tank her GPA.

The options I see for a 1.9 GPA going through as an upperclassman...

1) Can't be their first semester at UT Austin, because the 1.9 would have been from another college/university and I can't see them getting admitted with that GPA?

2) Then it has to be their 2nd or 3rd semester as a UT Austin student...admitted in spring, went through fall recruitment (or picked up as a COB during the late summer or something). Terrible GPA from being a student at UT Austin, but was fine enough at other college to get admitted.

3) Couldn't be Spring pledge because if she was that special of a snowflake, she would have gone through fine in the fall. If she had just transferred into UT Austin in January, she would in the first scenario above.

I'm less interested in the membership selection portion of this (to each their own) and just trying to figure out how this person got INTO the school.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

I'm less interested in the membership selection portion of this (to each their own) and just trying to figure out how this person got INTO the school.

Many schools admit students based on a score comprised of GPA + standardized test scores (and other factors). While it's not necessarily the norm, it's definitely possible to be admitted into a competitive school with a less than competitive GPA. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Many schools admit students based on a score comprised of GPA + standardized test scores (and other factors). While it's not necessarily the norm, it's definitely possible to be admitted into a competitive school with a less than competitive GPA. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Telling me not to worry about it whilst trying to get relatives with crazy high GPAs in (or at least giving them good and accurate information to help them get in!) is like telling a crack addict to not notice the pipe sitting on the table. LOL!

I get that it is possible, but probable with a 1.9? I'm struggling with that.

[DistantXOcousin]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Telling me not to worry about it whilst trying to get relatives with crazy high GPAs in (or at least giving them good and accurate information to help them get in!) is like telling a crack addict to not notice the pipe sitting on the table. LOL!

I get that it is possible, but probable with a 1.9? I'm struggling with that.

Obviously DoeofDenmark isn’t on the admissions board at UT. She said from the get go that it was her sister who extended the bid to this girl. If you’d like to know how someone got into UT, their admissions office is open Monday-Friday. I don’t think how the girl got into UT is relevant at all, she got in, there’s nothing we can do about it.

[navane]

How does a girl get into UT with a 1.9 GPA? Looks like we have our answer! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/felic...190801230.html