Define Hazing

[33girl]

Then SOME idiots should be punished, not the whole Greek system. As I said, the ones who didn’t haze will feel resentful and the ones who do haze will figure ways around it and not learn a damn thing.

[navane]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Then SOME idiots should be punished, not the whole Greek system. As I said, the ones who didn’t haze will feel resentful and the ones who do haze will figure ways around it and not learn a damn thing.

I never said I agreed with the "punish everyone" approach. When it comes to preventing hazing, common sense went out the window.

Originally Posted by Rod D

So the squeaky chicken was a good example. At the end of the day it is entirely harmless and kind of funny. Sure the police use it to keep composure -- part of their job. So that legitimizes it. But what harm is there if a GLO (or other group) did it? They end up in trouble? Do we want to say "that's hazing" in this context?

Frankly, I don't really have an issue with the squeaky chicken in a fraternity scenario. I don't see the harm if it's just a funny game to pass the time. Like, throwing paper basketballs in a wastepaper basket - if you miss, you do 5 push-ups - or something like that. People do that kind of stuff everywhere.

I mean, we even have that thread here at GreekChat - You Laugh, You Lose: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=105269


My point was that this type of "everything could be hazing" policy is an overcorrection for what is seen as an inability of youth to use good judgement and self-control.

[*winter*]

The problem comes in, we live in a society where someone WOULD complain about the chicken. And action would be taken, the whole 9 yards. We also live in a society where people think it's okay to urinate on, beat and force feed alcohol to pledges. And the pledges seem willing, for the most part, to take it. It's like, the number of people complaining about stupid stuff being hazing has gone up, but so has the violence and level of harm of the people who are actually hazing. I wouldn't want to work in HQ right now.

[*winter*]

Originally Posted by navane

My point was that this type of "everything could be hazing" policy is an overcorrection for what is seen as an inability of youth to use good judgement and self-control.

This.