School with the reputation of cutting half of PNMs?

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by naraht

How does that affect the answer(s)? It doesn't.
Variable 1: Number of women who sign up (and meeting the school and Panhel's objective criteria) to participate in Panhellenic Recuitment. As far as I can tell, at most schools this is a specific number. It doesn't matter whether they drop immediately after signing up, suicide at their final choice or continue on all the way to becoming a pledge.

Variable 2: Number of bids offered by the Sororities participating the Panhellenic recruitment at the end of period, regardless of whether they are accepted by the girls. (Which should be more or less equal to the sum of the quotas)

Are there cases where Variable 2 is less than half of Variable 1. I'm not looking to find out whether for Alabama's 2016 rush the ratio is .4135, I'm looking for round numbers.

I have to ask: have you ever taken a basic research class?

ABSOLUTELY the answers will be affected by the way the questions are posed/written! Your examples are, for lack of better words, not related to your original questions. Sheesh. Sigh.

Good luck.

ETA: note to self: stop trying to help him/her.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

I have to ask: have you ever taken a basic research class?

ABSOLUTELY the answers will be affected by the way the questions are posed/written! Your examples are, for lack of better words, not related to your original questions. Sheesh. Sigh.

Good luck.

ETA: note to self: stop trying to help him/her.

Nope. (College was 30 years ago and my degree is in Mathematics) And I felt that I wasn't looking for exact enough answers to require the questions to be that exact.

I believe that my questions as stated was basically were equivalent to "At what schools does a woman who formally participants in recruitment have less than a fifty percent chance of getting a bid?"

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by naraht

I believe that my questions as stated was basically were equivalent to "At what schools does a woman who formally participants in recruitment have less than a fifty percent chance of getting a bid?"

To answer this one would have to accumulate the recruitment data from all schools which do recruitment (am assuming you mean NPC recruitment but I digress) and just look at the numbers: # registered for recruitment vs # bids extended.

[KerriMarie]

Originally Posted by Titchou

To answer this one would have to accumulate the recruitment data from all schools which do recruitment (am assuming you mean NPC recruitment but I digress) and just look at the numbers: # registered for recruitment vs # bids extended.

That would still show women who drop out as not receiving bids, even though they may have gotten a bid if they had stayed in. Does that make sense?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by KerriMarie

That would still show women who drop out as not receiving bids, even though they may have gotten a bid if they had stayed in. Does that make sense?

then adjust for that.....the bottom line is that we don't know and can't find out.

[BlueBayou]

Back in the dark ages before computers when I was and active in the sorority that had the highest active and pledge GPA on campus - I was surprised to learn that more than half of the girls going through rush did not meet our academic standards. They could not be pledged.

And there was another sorority on campus that had similar standards. So half of the girls were not eligible for 2 of the 6 sororities on campus.

Our minimum GPA fluctuated each rush - but it was brutal. The year I pledged was the last year they had SR - or "scholarship risk" spots. Where you were allowed to take a few girls one or two 1/10 of a point below (2.5 if the threshold was 2.7) the GPA threshold. They stopped the practice because too much focus was debating which few girls will get those spots - while attention was not on academically strong "top rushees." Also at least half of the SR for the last two pledge classes where SRs were present - failed to make their grades and were immediately on academic probation. Sad for individual girls who were close to our GPA cutoff - but simpler and arguably better for the chapter in the long run.

Because we had such a HUGE academic cut - we had to space it out over two invitational rounds.(But the majority was the first round) Otherwise our first round of invitational parties had the potential to look like a ghost town.

My sophomore year - I had a room-mate going through rush that did not have our grades. She knew that she probably wasn't even close. It sucked because she would have been an awesome addition. I made the decision that they cut her after the first round - she had a great reference so she would have been carried to the second round as a "courtesy" to the alum that wrote the reference. But I knew she wanted to be cut if she was not at are threshold.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by BlueBayou

Back in the dark ages before computers when I was and active in the sorority that had the highest active and pledge GPA on campus - I was surprised to learn that more than half of the girls going through rush did not meet our academic standards. They could not be pledged.

And there was another sorority on campus that had similar standards. So half of the girls were not eligible for 2 of the 6 sororities on campus.

Our minimum GPA fluctuated each rush - but it was brutal. The year I pledged was the last year they had SR - or "scholarship risk" spots. Where you were allowed to take a few girls one or two 1/10 of a point below (2.5 if the threshold was 2.7) the GPA threshold. They stopped the practice because too much focus was debating which few girls will get those spots - while attention was not on academically strong "top rushees." Also at least half of the SR for the last two pledge classes where SRs were present - failed to make their grades and were immediately on academic probation. Sad for individual girls who were close to our GPA cutoff - but simpler and arguably better for the chapter in the long run.

Because we had such a HUGE academic cut - we had to space it out over two invitational rounds.(But the majority was the first round) Otherwise our first round of invitational parties had the potential to look like a ghost town.

My sophomore year - I had a room-mate going through rush that did not have our grades. She knew that she probably wasn't even close. It sucked because she would have been an awesome addition. I made the decision that they cut her after the first round - she had a great reference so she would have been carried to the second round as a "courtesy" to the alum that wrote the reference. But I knew she wanted to be cut if she was not at are threshold.

We had 5 sororities on my campus and we had a higher GPA requirement than the other GLOs. It wasn't a negotiable thing. We had to cut a lot of girls who would have been great members, but didn't have the grades and would have left us as an academic risk.