An interesting read by a U of Michigan Recruitment Chair

[beckymer92]

I can't believe what I'm reading. “get involved”, band together and try to force an outcome based on rumors and uncorroborated accusations? SMH. If this isn’t sour grapes, I don’t know what is. Cloaked in moral sounding platitudes, you guys just come across as gossipy in this entire thread, starting with the “mean girls” line. I suggest you lead with hard evidence first before you try to interfere with any group setting up shop anywhere. You guys will just sound crazy and petty otherwise.

I’d love to see actual evidence of these accusations. Please PM me with it. I also suggest you go directly to any source to confirm instead of rounding up support on a greek forum that sounds increasing gossipy.

I’ve been asking my college student to let me share her rush story here but from the sounds of this forum, I think we’ll pass. I understand the point of talking about sorority personalities on a forum such as this one but when a conversation devolves to this, it just makes this forum look gossipy.

[33girl]

I forgot, you know everything.

Originally Posted by beckymer92

Tanglewood: I think you are right. My goddaughter went through rush at UT. We pretty much say the same thing as you. My GD went KD. We learned much about the rush system at Texas in advance. We've heard the stories. I know of the rigid tier system but in reality, all chapters have attractive, smart girls in their ranks. I know all chapters grab girls they know first. This is prolly true for sorority life in general. Every chapter. Every house. At Texas, it's clear which houses try to grab their camp buddies or Hardin girls. For the cheer/pom pnm's, Zeta Tau Alpha automatically keeps them on their return list. It's like they want them all every year! Plenty of girls buck the system, though. Like the cheer and pommies that chose Alpha Phi and Alpha Chi. Or the Highland Park girls that went Alpha Phi because that house already has an HP faction. And the pageant girl that went DG. She probably could have gone Zeta. This shows there is more that binds the chapters together than what separates them. Don't get me wrong. I know the UT system is still highly structured (and that does matter to some people) but, unlike when I was in school, the actives themselves seem to have all kinds of friends from so many other chapters now. It's so nice to see! Like the Theta that is roomies with and hangs out with an ADPi. I just saw the AXD pictures this morning. Such.pretty.girls. The tent talk may still be there at Texas but the system is much more intermixed than PNMs think.

Hoping your daughter will share her story. I'll ask my gd to put hers in writing as well.

Your posts do have some merit though, if you take a drink of wine every time you type “sour grapes.”

[KFKPHIMU]

Originally Posted by beckymer92

I’d love to see actual evidence of these accusations. Please PM me with it. I also suggest you go directly to any source to confirm instead of rounding up support on a greek forum that sounds increasing gossipy.

I don't have evidence to these practices or not, but potentially this is a huge PR issue for Alpha Phi and the Greek system. News does not have to be 100% truthful to get traction these days. Initially, I thought it was completely bogus but there are accounts from people (who seem credible and concerned for THEIR organization) are confirming it.

Your point, it is working for them so what is the problem? For me the problem is as a women, I bring a whole lot more to the table than my looks and drilling me down to a "hot or not" number is down right degrading. As a mother of daughters, please don't even insult my daughters who bring so much more to the table than their looks.

[GreekOne]

Originally Posted by KFKPHIMU

Your point, it is working for them so what is the problem? For me the problem is as a women, I bring a whole lot more to the table than my looks and drilling me down to a "hot or not" number is down right degrading. As a mother of daughters, please don't even insult my daughters who bring so much more to the table than their looks.

And, to this point, at the end of the day, the "hot or not" tier rankings that are driving this approach are being driven by what fraternity men "think" about women. Sororities were founded on principles of strong independent women creating a place to support and protect one another in a hostile male dominated environment. At what point did it become okay to base our value on the men's opinions of whether we are "hot or not".

We are better than that!