If you are a legacy, should you mention it?

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by OldFLDDD

ForeverRoses, when you say "not treated as a legacy in the system", what exactly do you mean by that? I'm confused now. The Tri Deltas will obviously know her status but that would be from the recs they'll receive ahead of time. And I guess there is some disagreement on whether or not it's good for the other houses to know where she's a legacy. I think some of this also comes down to how much of a "hot commodity" she is. I predict that she'll have a successful rush, but she's not going to be the girl everyone is going nuts over. I like to think that she'd be that, but I'm a realist!

What I mean is that we don't always get recommendations from the sister or Mom/Grandma telling us that they have a legacy going through. If we don't, but they put it down in ICS, then we can verify from that and treat them as legacies. Now if a mistake happens (such as if we accidentally release someone that is a legacy after open house rounds), if they have not registered in ICS as a legacy then we cannot "fix" a mistake. If they are in ICS as a legacy, Panhellenic has allowed us to invite them back.
There have been times when we get a recommendation, but it doesn't tell us that they are a legacy when they are. The PNM doesn't put it in ICS and then they are released. We then get angry phone calls/emails from Moms/Sisters/Grandmas about why we released their snowflake. In those cases, Panhellenic will not allow us to invite them back since they did not self-identify as a legacy.

I have also seen when women don't list themselves as a legacy. Then we get a legacy recommendation form for them, but it isn't marked in ICS. Then women in the chapter question their intentions in later rounds when they come back telling us how much they love our chapter and how they are a legacy.

As for ICS, we only get a legacy list for our chapter, not for all the other chapters. However if I go into each individual profile, I can see if they listed any other chapters.

[IowaPiPhi]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I have also seen when women don't list themselves as a legacy. Then we get a legacy recommendation form for them, but it isn't marked in ICS. Then women in the chapter question their intentions in later rounds when they come back telling us how much they love our chapter and how they are a legacy.

As for ICS, we only get a legacy list for our chapter, not for all the other chapters. However if I go into each individual profile, I can see if they listed any other chapters.

ForeverRoses, I am reading this thread with great interest. As you know, my daughter just finished Recruitment. She was fortunate to have essentially full party cards (including 4 chapters that she adored) to the end, Preffed 2 of them, and accepted a bid to what became her top choice, her legacy chapter. She did, however, lose many chapters early on that she really would have liked to have gotten to know better. I know there are deep cuts early and it is very competitive. It is hard to know if her legacy status played a part in her not being asked back, or not. I have wondered about it as I have another daughter in high school. It very likely could be that they just didn't click or it came down to sheer numbers. I'm just grateful it worked out for her and that either bid would have been a very welcome sight. It was a rough 2 weeks!

[carnation]

I feel that the new release figures have made it tougher on legacies, who are often dropped by their non-legacy chapters because the members don't want to "waste" a spot on someone who will suuuurely be pledging their legacy chapter. This has played out several times for local girls.

One of my nieces, who would have been quite in demand at her medium-sized school had she not been an in-house legacy, was left with 2 choices after first parties. I felt for her until bids came out! What if her legacy group had cut her? And I have seen this happen to girls who had a sitting sister in the house.

[IowaPiPhi]

Originally Posted by carnation

I feel that the new release figures have made it tougher on legacies, who are often dropped by their non-legacy chapters because the members don't want to "waste" a spot on someone who will suuuurely be pledging their legacy chapter. This has played out several times for local girls.

One of my nieces, who would have been quite in demand at her medium-sized school had she not been an in-house legacy, was left with 2 choices after first parties. I felt for her until bids came out! What if her legacy group had cut her? And I have seen this happen to girls who had a sitting sister in the house.

My daughter's roommate also got cut from many houses off the bat, and I was shocked. Not only is she a stunning beauty, down to earth, and a Kelley school business major, but has a quick-witted, hilarious personality. She was also a legacy of a 'top tier' sorority that, apparently, tends to take out of state girls, which she is not. She wound up dropping out of Recruitment after they and all but 2 chapters, with whom she did not click, cut her. She may try again next year now that she has friends in many chapters, but my heart breaks for her. I don't think she was given a fair chance.

[IowaPiPhi]

Originally Posted by carnation

I feel that the new release figures have made it tougher on legacies, who are often dropped by their non-legacy chapters because the members don't want to "waste" a spot on someone who will suuuurely be pledging their legacy chapter. This has played out several times for local girls.

One of my nieces, who would have been quite in demand at her medium-sized school had she not been an in-house legacy, was left with 2 choices after first parties. I felt for her until bids came out! What if her legacy group had cut her? And I have seen this happen to girls who had a sitting sister in the house.

My daughter's roommate also got cut from many houses off the bat, and I was shocked. Not only is she a stunning beauty, down to earth, and a Kelley school business major, but has a quick-witted, hilarious personality. She was also a legacy of a 'top tier' sorority that, apparently, tends to take out of state girls, which she is not. She wound up dropping out of Recruitment after they and all but 2 chapters, with whom she did not click, cut her. She may try again next year now that she has friends in many chapters, but my heart breaks for her. I don't think she was given a fair chance.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by IowaPiPhi

My daughter's roommate also got cut from many houses off the bat, and I was shocked. Not only is she a stunning beauty, down to earth, and a Kelley school business major, but has a quick-witted, hilarious personality. She was also a legacy of a 'top tier' sorority that, apparently, tends to take out of state girls, which she is not. She wound up dropping out of Recruitment after they and all but 2 chapters, with whom she did not click, cut her. She may try again next year now that she has friends in many chapters, but my heart breaks for her. I don't think she was given a fair chance.

I don't know all groups, but I can tell you if we released her it WAS NOT because she was a legacy somewhere else. (Unless she specifically said "I only want to be a XYZ because I'm a legacy there").

As I tried to explain to someone, it's not that a chapter didn't like you, it's just that they liked other people more. And heavy cuts do turn it into a numbers game.