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01-27-2018, 12:12 AM
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NM Periods should prepare them to be Members. 6-8 weeks of being showered with gifts and 6-8 chapter meetings is not it. Members are generally filled with loads of required activities, committees, socials, etc. NMs that were "optional" for everything but NM meetings don't have a clue as to what they're in for as a full member. Then people quit because it's more time consuming and stressful than they realized.
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01-27-2018, 09:55 AM
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NM Periods should prepare them to be Members. 6-8 weeks of being showered with gifts and 6-8 chapter meetings is not it. Members are generally filled with loads of required activities, committees, socials, etc. NMs that were "optional" for everything but NM meetings don't have a clue as to what they're in for as a full member. Then people quit because it's more time consuming and stressful than they realized.
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This is exactly it. I was not hazed, but I most certainly WORKED. I knew after my pledge period this organization was going to be something that took a lot of time. It wasn't my high school Quill and Scroll chapter.
Hockeyfan's post kind of proves all our points - she goes straight to hazing as if there were nothing in between that and 6 weeks of gifts. Again, I was not hazed, and never had fraternity men telling me my "process" wasn't hard enough - in fact, we had fraternity men express concerns in the other direction when a pledgemistress went a bit off the rails. Men and women do bond differently, but not that differently.
Also, dang, Kevin. Lol.
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01-31-2018, 04:49 PM
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Hockeyfan's post kind of proves all our points - she goes straight to hazing as if there were nothing in between that and 6 weeks of gifts.
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I don't mean to sound defensive but want to say that I explicitly mentioned how my new member process was educational, informative, and detailed. I don't believe I made a single mention of gifts in my post, because I actually didn't get any besides a bid day tee-shirt and some candy during big/little reveal. My point was that there is absolutely a way to do new member education in 6-8 weeks without sacrificing understanding of your sorority's history.
As far as time commitment goes, again, I had roughly the same time commitment as a new member that I have as an initiate - two hours of required meetings, optional study hall 4 hours a week, and optional participation in social events every weekend. Add that to "dating" 10-15 potential bigs for an hour each over a two week period and I was a busy bee, same as I am now while holding an officer position! If you think my point was "gifts or it's hazing!" then I'm sorry I didn't get my point across better.
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02-01-2018, 12:26 PM
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To bring this back to the original issue, there's now a screenshot of a Snapchat going around from members of Alpha Phi at the George Washington University, in which a member can be seen holding a banana peel and the caption reads "Izzy: I'm 1/16th black." The chapter has already taken down their Instagram page and the university has received multiple complaints/tweets about it.
Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more: that people are still dumb enough to think racist jokes are funny, or that they're dumb enough to post them on the internet with their names, faces, and other easily identifiable information.
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02-01-2018, 08:50 PM
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To bring this back to the original issue, there's now a screenshot of a Snapchat going around from members of Alpha Phi at the George Washington University, in which a member can be seen holding a banana peel and the caption reads "Izzy: I'm 1/16th black." The chapter has already taken down their Instagram page and the university has received multiple complaints/tweets about it.
Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more: that people are still dumb enough to think racist jokes are funny, or that they're dumb enough to post them on the internet with their names, faces, and other easily identifiable information.
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Their insta and FB are both down.
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/dc/g...ure-/513637697
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02-02-2018, 02:22 PM
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Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more: that people are still dumb enough to think racist jokes are funny, or that they're dumb enough to post them on the internet with their names, faces, and other easily identifiable information.
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What surprises me is that this age generation thinks it's funny. I understand older generations thinking that since race relations were different 30-40 -50 years ago.
What also boggles my mind is that they're dumb post this stuff online - even pictures of them stupid drunk. Even those pics can harm job opportunities.
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02-02-2018, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCMS
What surprises me is that this age generation thinks it's funny. I understand older generations thinking that since race relations were different 30-40 -50 years ago.
What also boggles my mind is that they're dumb post this stuff online - even pictures of them stupid drunk. Even those pics can harm job opportunities.
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I think young people often enjoy "shock" humor. I think that comes with their freedom and them testing the boundaries of their freedom. I'm honestly shocked that we've not yet had a national incident come out of members recording themselves playing Cards Against Humanity [think Apples to Apples, but highly crass], because when aren't some of those cards the sorts of things which convince people to picket a house?
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