Belmont- Everyone Gets a Bid?

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Titchou

1) Even if she listed another she won't be on their bid list so they can't "match" her to them.
2) See above. Typically,unless something really bizarre comes up at pref, pref invitees are on the bid list - somewhere. Maybe at the bottom but on it.. All this is going to do is skew quota but Belmont's recruitment isn't that big anyway.
3) Now this is stupid. She won't be on anyone's bid list nor invite list. Don't you think PH could figure that out????

Belmont's recruitment isn't that big relative to, say, big SEC schools, but I believe quota has been in the high 70s for them the past couple years. Which is also part of the issue with administration-Gamma Phi Beta was selected to colonize but hasn't been allowed to come on because administration doesn't want Greek life to get any bigger...but also is requiring that everyone who wants to join gets a bid?

I remember someone with experience at Tufts saying that if a woman was cut from all the chapters there, the advisors would meet and essentially play hot potato with the least desirable PNMs until they all fell somewhere on someone's bid list.

[carnation]

We talked about that many years ago--how the sororities would sit down and say, "We'll take the ho if you'll take the girl with the 1.5." Etc. And you know it would come down to that.

I don't see how a college, private or not, can force an NPC sorority to take someone whom they don't want to.

[33girl]

If they want that sort of system, they probably should never have allowed national groups to come back on in the first place. Was there any sort of Greek life or club system in the 80-odd years between when national groups left and when they returned?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

Belmont's recruitment isn't that big relative to, say, big SEC schools, but I believe quota has been in the high 70s for them the past couple years. .

I meant so there would not be that many women to whom this even could apply.

But seriously,folks, how many PNMs do you know of this year who maximized their options and got NO bid? Precious few, if any. So these rules are not awful. Just saying what I've always told my chapters - do not invite her to pref if you aren't willing to give her a bid.

[DoctorD]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Just saying what I've always told my chapters - do not invite her to pref if you aren't willing to give her a bid.

Ok, so that's the thing. Girls would be released from the chapter but show back up on the invite list the next day. It's not a matter of don't invite her - it's a matter of not inviting her and it not mattering.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Titchou

But seriously,folks, how many PNMs do you know of this year who maximized their options and got NO bid? Precious few, if any. So these rules are not awful. Just saying what I've always told my chapters - do not invite her to pref if you aren't willing to give her a bid.

I think there were PLENTY of women who were dropped from recruitment prior to pref on many, many campi. This rule at Belmont is saying that PNMs cannot be dropped from recruitment, if I am reading this correctly.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by thetalady

I think there were PLENTY of women who were dropped from recruitment prior to pref on many, many campi. This rule at Belmont is saying that PNMs cannot be dropped from recruitment, if I am reading this correctly.

No, that is not what it says. It says you have to attend all formal recruitment events and then you will get a bid. If you don't attend them all,you are not eligible. Note it actually says "to be eligible" you have to have all the listed requirements. I don't see what people are getting in an uproar over.

[carnation]

Because a PNM could be a skank ho, drama queen, or terminal weirdo (see "Weird Rush Stories" and walk right into your chapter!

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by carnation

Because a PNM could be a skank ho, drama queen, or terminal weirdo (see "Weird Rush Stories" and walk right into your chapter!

Well, that happens anyway in spite of our best efforts!

[carnation]

Sure but can you imagine one of them getting pushed into your chapter, although you cut her because you knew what she was?

Shorter had forced bidding one year. I can't begin to tell you what all happened as a result.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I meant so there would not be that many women to whom this even could apply.

But seriously,folks, how many PNMs do you know of this year who maximized their options and got NO bid? Precious few, if any. So these rules are not awful. Just saying what I've always told my chapters - do not invite her to pref if you aren't willing to give her a bid.

This past year I have heard many girls declare that they were dropped from recruitment. Upon further investigation they admit they actually did have invitations and could have continued, but didn't like their choices and withdrew from recruitment. They considered themselves dropped because their top choices had not invited them back. Playing the victim card instead of owning their decisions.

Since RFM was implemented most PNMs who see the process through to bid signing receive a bid.